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I was going to make this thread a bit earlier when the whole comparison thing was strongest, but eh, I can be a bit of a procrastinator at times. If you didn’t know, Angel Beats co-stars the eccentric leader of a rebel group against god in the afterlife named Yurippe. She is highly criticized for being a “Haruhi clone”. However, if you took just a cursory viewing of the show, it would become clear just how different these two characters are. I’m here to set the record straight.

1. Recruitment of Underlings

First off, I just thought we should get into their different methods of recruitment. Haruhi is marked by the fact that she always demands things from others for what amounts to no particular reason. This extends to how she winds up with the four members of the SOS Brigade. It is a group of people, from Haruhi’s point of view at least, who were forced into this club for no reason except that they happened to pass by. Let me remind you that Kyon is the only member of that group that isn’t there because someone else told them to do it. Haruhi is basically the leader of a group of observers who never seemed to have an interest of actually being friends with her outside of their duty to be friends with her.

Yurippe, however, seemed to just find people who, like her, were given the short stick in life, and wanted to rebel against the idea of a god that would let that happen. First episode, Otonashi arrives in the afterlife conveniently next to Yurippe. She gives him a simple offer, he can join her group or not. He chooses not to, and she does not force him to join. Later, he finds themselves within their headquarters. It does take the guy some convincing to join, but it’s always clear that he does not need to accept. The important difference you should come out of this with is that Yurippe respects the will of other people, Haruhi does not.

2. Treatment of Underlings

Now, like my previous point stated, a slight similarity between these two girls is that they are the leaders of a group. However, the way they run these groups and the amount of respect they give their members is completely different. As I stated, Haruhi forces people to do things for her. She treats the members of the SOS Brigade as nothing but the tools to meet her end. Case in point, the baseball game, advertising for the club, movie production, outright blackmail, all coercions using people to get what she wants. I would also just like to note that she commits what is in no uncertain terms sexual assault against Mikuru on what we can only assume is a frequent basis.



Now we come to Yurippe. Yurippe has a much different leadership role than Haruhi for the fact that she actually partakes in military skirmishes on a daily basis. She commands her group not as some afterschool club, but as a battlefront in the war against what she believes to be an unjust god. Sure, Yurippe has been guilty of belittling her own people, but you can always tell that it’s in the kind of jest that someone makes between friends. Lord knows I’ve ragged on my friends and get ragged on all the time, but it’s never meant maliciously. The true extent to how she cares about her group is highlighted in the second episode. In it, along with the most intriguing example of what one is capable of when they know they can’t die, is how she reacts as those around her sacrifice themselves or fall victim to traps and die. She doesn’t blame them, she questions her own leadership. She cares about her group so much that, even though she knows they are perfectly fine, the idea that maybe she could have been better, that more could have survived, haunts her.



3. Backstory and Personality

Honestly, I don’t know if this has been explained, I only know as much as the anime goes unfortunately, but Haruhi really doesn’t have a lot of backstory. She is god, we don’t know why she just is. Even when they go back to the even three years ago there isn’t much revealed about her except for the ever prevalent fact that she is a selfish bitch. When Kyon goes back in time, he just becomes Haruhi’s bitch again and draws some lines on the ground to “attract aliens”. As for her personality, this is pretty much as biased as you can get, but if you can gather from what I’ve been saying this whole article, I have little good to say about Ms. Suzumiya’s character. She is selfish, doing what she wants however she can get it done. She’s almost one dimensional in the way that she’s just this selfish platform from which they drive the plot. How do we decide what the episodes gonna be about? Let’s have Haruhi bitch about something and then drag everyone along to get it done for her. Brilliant.

Yurippe’s biggest source of backstory was the life she led before she died. It is an incredibly depressing tale. If you haven’t watched the series, spoiler alerts from episode two, but maybe this’ll get you interested in the show then. Yurippe lived a normal life with her three sisters. As the oldest of them, she was in charge of taking care of them when her parents were gone. One night, burglars break in. When they can’t find anything valuable, they force Yurippe to look for any valuables they believe their parents hid. If she didn’t come back quickly enough, her sisters would die one by one. She fails, and all three sisters are brutally murdered. She was supposed to take care of them, but she was helpless to do anything to help them. It is also important to note how she assures Otonashi that she didn’t let the depression lead her to suicide. While she still feels the guilt, she was not overcome by it. This is the driving notion behind the idea to rebel against a god that would allow her sisters to be murdered in such a way. It explains how she can be a bit callous, but most importantly it explains her purpose. Why she fights. Why she is different from Haruhi Suzumiya.
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Great read. And yeah, I can see some similiarities in the physical character designs, personality wise, they are quite different.

The only thing I might give in as similar, is that they both seem pretty shrewd in planning certain activities. For example, Haruhi had a good "battle plan" when she went to blackmail the computer club. Yurippe also tends to have well thought-out plans too (lke breaking into Angel's room, although the plans do have misleanding names...)

P.S. - What ep from Hairhu is that screencap with the licking from?

P.P.S. - LONG LIVE TK!
4. Undeserving cult following.
Yurippi would take Haruhi in a knife fight, I'm 99% sure!
From the place I found it, it says the ear thing is from near the beginning of the baseball episode.
That pic of Haruhi biting Mikuru's ear always has me laughing
I like Haruhi. I think the majority of her problems come from the fact she doesn't feel empathy for anyone at all, though the plot development that occurs later in the light novels clearly illustrates how much she changed from that one-dimensional bitch who served only to drive the plot to a much more fleshed out, sympathetic character.
But I digress, I'm in complete agreement. The Yurippe comparisons have always confused me because they're incredibly shallow. They look the same, okay, they both lead a group of people, sure, but that's where it goes cold. Their backgrounds are different, their mannerisms are different and their attitudes are different. Good write up, and the picture and caption of TK made me break out laughing. TK is awesome.
I agree as well...but honestly, the people who tend to understand/believe that Yuri and Haruhi are different are the ones who enjoy/like/love Angel Beats. If they dislike the show, they pull out the "They're the same" card as their first line of defense.

Episode 1? Yeah, they are close, even I agreed with the "They're the same" group. However, as more story was added to Yuri, we can see there are some very big stark differences. As you mentioned, Marlin, her treatment/sadness at the loss of her subordinates/friends (especially Iwasawa) is her biggest difference between Haruhi.

Something else to consider is the fact that the show isn't over! We have what? 40 some episodes + movie of Haruhi to understand how she thinks. Yuri? Yeah, 8 episodes (9 if you have seen this weeks already). That's really far too early to declare them the same character/based off Haruhi.

Honestly (And finally, I'm starting to ramble), if Yuri's hair was different, boom. No argument.
I agree the similarity's between the two characters are only surface deep.
@-Moonlight- Haruhi does feel empathy, if you've only seen the series, then you haven't seen here character develop; but she does feel a great deal of empathy for her entire brigade. To the point where she gives up on her superstitions to tend to their wants and needs.

Yurripe does treat her underlings just ass poorly as Haruhi. Yurippe forces memories on the protagonists, throws the lives away of her underlings. Hell she shot the same guy into the ceiling dozens of times, as well as forces them to preform in activities that she herself doesn't do. Yurippe might not be exactly like Haruhi, but they are both relatively narcissistic dictators. The only difference is Yurippe has a reason to be leading and a goal, so she had to act efficiently, and her people act differently towards her. If Yurippe's followers acted in the same manner that Haruhi's does, Yurippe would act similarly. I think as a large slab of material, they are the same, they've just been sculpted differently by their environment.

Also, Yurippe has about five minutes of backstory, and we've visited just as much of Haruhi's backstory in Bamboo leaf as well as her explanation about the baseball game. Two separate events, where as Yurippe only has one.
if they didn't look the same, there would no comparisons.
I think they're incredibly similar for the first episode, but episode 2 and further, Yuri develops into a completely different character.
You make it sound WRONG that Haruhi is a sexual predator

:3
@Shiro Shishi:
You make it sound like sexual assault is an admirable action.
@The-Excel
It is really assault if the offended party doesn't resist, and doesn't even seem to dislike it? I mean, it's not like she ties Mikuru down.
@The-Excel

You make it sound like I didn't make a joke.

I guess I am the failz on the interwebs.
@Dtiznit:

Mikuru can't resist. If she does and Haruhi hates her, the world ends. Or I'm sure that's what goes through her mind :P
I have a thing against people who think overt sexual acts are funny, okay? They're not.
Yeah, it was always one of those things that I really hated when watching the show. "Are people supposed to find this funny?" is always the thought.

@Driznit
If you're talking about solely the exam episode, I guess there is no answer for the whole rocketdesk thing except that it was supposed to be for comedy, but she didn't force hypnotism on Otonashi. It was only because she thought he would want his memories back in the first place, and he did, so he accepted. Hardly malicious in its intent.
Agreed. She is a Haruhi clone.

They both have their defining characteristics, but if you look at Angel Beats cast then you know that everyone is a stereotype. It's that defining point that makes their stories so much more interesting when they come out. They aren't better than the originals because they have very little originality. They are however really good characters in a very interesting story despite their inherent flaws. That should be commendable.

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