Great read. And yeah, I can see some similiarities in the physical character designs, personality wise, they are quite different.
The only thing I might give in as similar, is that they both seem pretty shrewd in planning certain activities. For example, Haruhi had a good "battle plan" when she went to blackmail the computer club. Yurippe also tends to have well thought-out plans too (lke breaking into Angel's room, although the plans do have misleanding names...)
P.S. - What ep from Hairhu is that screencap with the licking from?
P.P.S. - LONG LIVE TK!
The only thing I might give in as similar, is that they both seem pretty shrewd in planning certain activities. For example, Haruhi had a good "battle plan" when she went to blackmail the computer club. Yurippe also tends to have well thought-out plans too (lke breaking into Angel's room, although the plans do have misleanding names...)
P.S. - What ep from Hairhu is that screencap with the licking from?
P.P.S. - LONG LIVE TK!
From the place I found it, it says the ear thing is from near the beginning of the baseball episode.
I like Haruhi. I think the majority of her problems come from the fact she doesn't feel empathy for anyone at all, though the plot development that occurs later in the light novels clearly illustrates how much she changed from that one-dimensional bitch who served only to drive the plot to a much more fleshed out, sympathetic character.
But I digress, I'm in complete agreement. The Yurippe comparisons have always confused me because they're incredibly shallow. They look the same, okay, they both lead a group of people, sure, but that's where it goes cold. Their backgrounds are different, their mannerisms are different and their attitudes are different. Good write up, and the picture and caption of TK made me break out laughing. TK is awesome.
But I digress, I'm in complete agreement. The Yurippe comparisons have always confused me because they're incredibly shallow. They look the same, okay, they both lead a group of people, sure, but that's where it goes cold. Their backgrounds are different, their mannerisms are different and their attitudes are different. Good write up, and the picture and caption of TK made me break out laughing. TK is awesome.
I agree as well...but honestly, the people who tend to understand/believe that Yuri and Haruhi are different are the ones who enjoy/like/love Angel Beats. If they dislike the show, they pull out the "They're the same" card as their first line of defense.
Episode 1? Yeah, they are close, even I agreed with the "They're the same" group. However, as more story was added to Yuri, we can see there are some very big stark differences. As you mentioned, Marlin, her treatment/sadness at the loss of her subordinates/friends (especially Iwasawa) is her biggest difference between Haruhi.
Something else to consider is the fact that the show isn't over! We have what? 40 some episodes + movie of Haruhi to understand how she thinks. Yuri? Yeah, 8 episodes (9 if you have seen this weeks already). That's really far too early to declare them the same character/based off Haruhi.
Honestly (And finally, I'm starting to ramble), if Yuri's hair was different, boom. No argument.
Episode 1? Yeah, they are close, even I agreed with the "They're the same" group. However, as more story was added to Yuri, we can see there are some very big stark differences. As you mentioned, Marlin, her treatment/sadness at the loss of her subordinates/friends (especially Iwasawa) is her biggest difference between Haruhi.
Something else to consider is the fact that the show isn't over! We have what? 40 some episodes + movie of Haruhi to understand how she thinks. Yuri? Yeah, 8 episodes (9 if you have seen this weeks already). That's really far too early to declare them the same character/based off Haruhi.
Honestly (And finally, I'm starting to ramble), if Yuri's hair was different, boom. No argument.
@-Moonlight- Haruhi does feel empathy, if you've only seen the series, then you haven't seen here character develop; but she does feel a great deal of empathy for her entire brigade. To the point where she gives up on her superstitions to tend to their wants and needs.
Yurripe does treat her underlings just ass poorly as Haruhi. Yurippe forces memories on the protagonists, throws the lives away of her underlings. Hell she shot the same guy into the ceiling dozens of times, as well as forces them to preform in activities that she herself doesn't do. Yurippe might not be exactly like Haruhi, but they are both relatively narcissistic dictators. The only difference is Yurippe has a reason to be leading and a goal, so she had to act efficiently, and her people act differently towards her. If Yurippe's followers acted in the same manner that Haruhi's does, Yurippe would act similarly. I think as a large slab of material, they are the same, they've just been sculpted differently by their environment.
Also, Yurippe has about five minutes of backstory, and we've visited just as much of Haruhi's backstory in Bamboo leaf as well as her explanation about the baseball game. Two separate events, where as Yurippe only has one.
Yurripe does treat her underlings just ass poorly as Haruhi. Yurippe forces memories on the protagonists, throws the lives away of her underlings. Hell she shot the same guy into the ceiling dozens of times, as well as forces them to preform in activities that she herself doesn't do. Yurippe might not be exactly like Haruhi, but they are both relatively narcissistic dictators. The only difference is Yurippe has a reason to be leading and a goal, so she had to act efficiently, and her people act differently towards her. If Yurippe's followers acted in the same manner that Haruhi's does, Yurippe would act similarly. I think as a large slab of material, they are the same, they've just been sculpted differently by their environment.
Also, Yurippe has about five minutes of backstory, and we've visited just as much of Haruhi's backstory in Bamboo leaf as well as her explanation about the baseball game. Two separate events, where as Yurippe only has one.
I think they're incredibly similar for the first episode, but episode 2 and further, Yuri develops into a completely different character.
@The-Excel
It is really assault if the offended party doesn't resist, and doesn't even seem to dislike it? I mean, it's not like she ties Mikuru down.
It is really assault if the offended party doesn't resist, and doesn't even seem to dislike it? I mean, it's not like she ties Mikuru down.
@Dtiznit:
Mikuru can't resist. If she does and Haruhi hates her, the world ends. Or I'm sure that's what goes through her mind :P
Mikuru can't resist. If she does and Haruhi hates her, the world ends. Or I'm sure that's what goes through her mind :P
Yeah, it was always one of those things that I really hated when watching the show. "Are people supposed to find this funny?" is always the thought.
@Driznit
If you're talking about solely the exam episode, I guess there is no answer for the whole rocketdesk thing except that it was supposed to be for comedy, but she didn't force hypnotism on Otonashi. It was only because she thought he would want his memories back in the first place, and he did, so he accepted. Hardly malicious in its intent.
@Driznit
If you're talking about solely the exam episode, I guess there is no answer for the whole rocketdesk thing except that it was supposed to be for comedy, but she didn't force hypnotism on Otonashi. It was only because she thought he would want his memories back in the first place, and he did, so he accepted. Hardly malicious in its intent.
Agreed. She is a Haruhi clone.
They both have their defining characteristics, but if you look at Angel Beats cast then you know that everyone is a stereotype. It's that defining point that makes their stories so much more interesting when they come out. They aren't better than the originals because they have very little originality. They are however really good characters in a very interesting story despite their inherent flaws. That should be commendable.
They both have their defining characteristics, but if you look at Angel Beats cast then you know that everyone is a stereotype. It's that defining point that makes their stories so much more interesting when they come out. They aren't better than the originals because they have very little originality. They are however really good characters in a very interesting story despite their inherent flaws. That should be commendable.

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