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Facepalm: CNN rediscovers Rapelay

*sigh*

I was almost trying to avoid posting about this for fear of giving the issue more attention than it was worth, but now that it's metastasized there's no real way to get out of it, especially not in the face of the loli laws to be voted upon come June. If you follow that sort of news, you've probably read about it now. CNN filled a block of dead air by taking their time machine back to 2009 and covering the infamous Rapelay, a game by Illusion Soft about, well, rape. You can catch the video below.

It shows the usual hysteria, but in this case emphasizes the idea that the game has "gone viral", by propagating itself over teh internetz like a lolcats picture (but with rape). The video also latches onto the convenient "Japan is oh-so-weird/perverse etc." angle that's always useful when trying to pad out the 24-hour news cycle with some "human interest" content.

Then came the followups. Kyung Lah put up a blog post wondering in print why Japanese culture would "allow rape games to thrive", and another post by Eve Bower suggested such games might/should be restricted "when they go too far". The common thread in all of these stories is the ridiculous notion that all of this sick filth coming out of Area 11 should be reined in based on the fact that it can get on the internet where people whose sensitivities might be hurt can be outraged by it. The articles put emphasis that this crap is becoming an issue "in our borderless digital world" as the internet enables foreigners to be offended by content not produced for them in the first place. Australian pols even used it to further justify their decision to censor the internet.

That absurdity aside, some of the experts usually brought in to amplify the controversy actually played the voice of reason to an extent. On Ms. Lah's post, Kyle Cleveland of Temple University noted that it's especially easy to pin Japan as particularly perverse because foreigners are naturally viewing its culture through the prisms of their own. A bald-faced attempt by anchor Mike Galanos to stir the pot in the "think of the children" direction was cooled down by Grand Theft Childhood author Dr. Cheryl Olsen, who ironically pinned some of the concern on continuing, sensationalistic coverage by the mass media. Rapelay was old and out of print long before 2009, in fact. Manga creator Nogami Takeshi also managed to get a few blows in, with an open letter accusing CNN (and others, in retrospect) of casting the first stone

On the whole, this is the evergreen case of one culture attempting to impose its moral norms upon another, and once again highlights the big struggle between freedom and rights. That's a perfectly fine (and necessary) debate in and of itself, but is ultimately undermined in this case by the suggestion that "they shouldn't make it because we find it icky", and because there's so much else to be concerned about besides the rights of nonexistent entities. We should remember that, lest we encourage congress to go ahead and ban everything, no?

[Thanks to everyone who sent this in, and tsurupeta for the translation!]





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its just a random target of people with to much time on their hands, its like kids with add dont give um anymore sugar and ignore um and they'll stop this eventually, just make sure they don't break anything before they get bored
Be sure to vote in the poll the CNN website!!!!!
"Should Japan ban sexually violent video games?"
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/
I don't think it's random at all. Kyung Lah has consistently published a series of articles depicting Japan in a bad light. Look, no country is perfect, we all know that, but it really seems to me that Lah is out to bash Japan specifically because I regularly see this kind of thing out of her. Compared to the United State Japan has a very low crime rate, and their sex crimes rate is a fraction of what ours is here. I think Rapelay is a pretty disgusting concept myself but at least in Japan all they did was make a game about it where here it is a regularly committed crime. Personally, I don't mind stuff like Rapelay being censored, nonetheless, I think Lah has an anti-Japan agenda here and I cannot help but wonder what on earth her deal is.

She ran that story about the Japanese mother taking her children back to Japan when it was clearly the American-born, Japanese naturalized father was being a total ass and was abusing the American court system.

I dunno, she seems to lack journalistic integrity.
^really good point, also people vote with what sanori posted
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/
its at bottom, the lulz are strong, its at like 70% no with like 15,000votes
@ BGFUSAB

She "seems" to lack journalistic integrity? That report is so biased that it could've come out of the worst tabloid. I didn't know CNN did junk like that.
Well, now I hate FOX AND CNN.

I don't wanna go back to reading newspapers, dammit. I'm too lazy for that. -_-
lol it went up to 2:1 saying no
As much as I hate this sensationalism, along with any sort of cultural essentialism, we do need to pressure Japan to be less sexist. I read some pretty disturbing things in school about the attitudes of Japanese judges towards rape. Among other things, if you met your rapist in a bar, you were asking for it.
So you're saying ALL Japanese men are rapists, Andy!?

WE're NO BETTER!!
@Andy
No, we do not need to pressure anybody to do anything just because that is the way we do it. Can you even support that statement with statistics that prove where you live has a lower rate of sexual assaults than Japan? I bet is is far higher...
Whatever. It's CNN, it's the old guard. Our generation is starting to have some real power these days.

People who watch "news" networks do so to reaffirm the beliefs they already have, not get information. So this will change nobody's opinions.

And yeah, this Kyung Lah is anti-Japanese. Because she's not Japanese. Asians are still openly and deeply racist toward each other. Is her name Korean, do you think? Even if Korean-American, her parents' generation's way of thinking might have had an influence on her.
@HoodedMiracle: here here!
She is in fact Korean. All there is to this story is pure Koren Vs. Japanese biased.
I'm not saying all Japanese men are rapists, and I'm not claiming there are fewer rapes in my area. I'm not saying that virtual sex games are bad, and you can love your lolicon all you want. I'm just saying that it's true that attitudes towards rape in Japan are biased towards the general assumption that women are "asking for it."

Treating women with respect is not something that is "just the way we do it." I'm fine with the low age of consent in Japan, and all the bondage anime, and I'll even give eroguro a free pass. But Japan really does have a terrible record on human trafficking, and that's not okay.

It's ironic that you're bringing up Korea v. Japan, given all the Korean women that were raped as "comfort women" by the Japanese during WWII.
If GTA had rape in it, it would probably be a better game...

Anyway, we all know the game is there, it's not as if everyone has stormed out to buy it and take it into any kind of creditable games rating list...
@Andy Although I feel with what you say, we cannot force people to do things "the way we do it". Forcing will never bring change, educating the society will. It's incredible how like a sheep society can be despite of how "first world country" they are, but if they didn't realize it there wouldn't be things like women-only train carriages. It's slow but sure.

@Nihon-freak Depending on how old she is, she could have lived first hand the Japanese invasion and experienced the horrible shit Japan put Korea (and other countries) through. Not condoning the low-handed disgusting way she does things nor I condone her anti-japanese stand, but as a fellow with the same roots I can understand why she is this way. I prefer not to remain ignorant to a countries flaws no matter how much I love them in any sort of way.
It's now 67% "No."

Is there a way to ramp it up to 99%. Perhaps by asking Destructoid and Tomopop denizens to help out?
BAM! get some!
1) this game is 4 years old, everyone with an Internet connection has known about it for years, most don't care
2) it was never sold in any legitimate way outside of Japan, only pirated by a dick from the UK and sold through Amazon for profit
3) no sane company would sell or distribute this game, it is internal to Japan only
4) the company pulled it ten months ago, it is totally unavailable except in pirated form online, which CNN has caused to increase
5) the newscaster who got this "scoop" is Korean, nope no bias there
6) the timing of CNN bringing up this old news, which is not new or fresh at all, just as America is fighting with Japan over the Futenma base in Okinawa, indicates this is part of the larger media game plan to harm Japan in our eyes. This is "manufactured" news, people.
The stories I've seen come from Kyung Lah about Japanese culture are just downright ignorant and examples of horribly biased and irresponsible journalism.
Hey, if they can go back in time, they could bring Michael Jackson back to life!
CNN needs to be banned for some serious necro posting.

"MY COUNTRY DISAGREES WITH THIS! ZOMG PROTECT THE CHILLUNS" It's bullshit like this that keeps a borders-free online community a pipe dream. I've played this before and I'm not out raping people (I do murder though, but that's a completely unrelated story due to something in our drinking water)...
Rather than go on about how CNN is bad, I'm just going to lament over how America has no good news stations...

I seriously wish the BBC would start broadcasting over here...
@ADD You mean like with BBC America?
It's as easy as this: You don't like it, you don't buy it. But what the hell do censors/news reporters think they are, telling somebody else to ban a videogame entirely?! I don't like gangsta rap, but you don't see me leading a f*cking crusade to abolish it altogether!! Free will, ladies and gentlemen, respect it.
I think I'm gonna post a link to the CNN video on 4chan. many lulz will be had.
OMFGZ a virtual girl is been raped in a video game!!!!. I thought we had a rating system.

I lmao when she said that the woman thing group said no one should play a game where the only way to win is by rape xD. I mean who knows, maybe youll rape someone in real life and you get prizes.
They really shouldn't be telling a whole other culture what to do. It's totally biased and wrong to judge them and force rules upon them. I mean, its an online phenomenon for pervs, but if anyone has a problem with it, they can just NOT BUY it, its nothing to force censor bars onto. CNN can go suck a juicebox.

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Facepalm: CNN rediscovers Rapelay


2:30 PM on 04.04.2010
Facepalm: CNN rediscovers Rapelay photo



*sigh*

I was almost trying to avoid posting about this for fear of giving the issue more attention than it was worth, but now that it's metastasized there's no real way to get out of it, especially not in the face of the loli laws to be voted upon come June. If you follow that sort of news, you've probably read about it now. CNN filled a block of dead air by taking their time machine back to 2009 and covering the infamous Rapelay, a game by Illusion Soft about, well, rape. You can catch the video below.

It shows the usual hysteria, but in this case emphasizes the idea that the game has "gone viral", by propagating itself over teh internetz like a lolcats picture (but with rape). The video also latches onto the convenient "Japan is oh-so-weird/perverse etc." angle that's always useful when trying to pad out the 24-hour news cycle with some "human interest" content.

Then came the followups. Kyung Lah put up a blog post wondering in print why Japanese culture would "allow rape games to thrive", and another post by Eve Bower suggested such games might/should be restricted "when they go too far". The common thread in all of these stories is the ridiculous notion that all of this sick filth coming out of Area 11 should be reined in based on the fact that it can get on the internet where people whose sensitivities might be hurt can be outraged by it. The articles put emphasis that this crap is becoming an issue "in our borderless digital world" as the internet enables foreigners to be offended by content not produced for them in the first place. Australian pols even used it to further justify their decision to censor the internet.

That absurdity aside, some of the experts usually brought in to amplify the controversy actually played the voice of reason to an extent. On Ms. Lah's post, Kyle Cleveland of Temple University noted that it's especially easy to pin Japan as particularly perverse because foreigners are naturally viewing its culture through the prisms of their own. A bald-faced attempt by anchor Mike Galanos to stir the pot in the "think of the children" direction was cooled down by Grand Theft Childhood author Dr. Cheryl Olsen, who ironically pinned some of the concern on continuing, sensationalistic coverage by the mass media. Rapelay was old and out of print long before 2009, in fact. Manga creator Nogami Takeshi also managed to get a few blows in, with an open letter accusing CNN (and others, in retrospect) of casting the first stone

On the whole, this is the evergreen case of one culture attempting to impose its moral norms upon another, and once again highlights the big struggle between freedom and rights. That's a perfectly fine (and necessary) debate in and of itself, but is ultimately undermined in this case by the suggestion that "they shouldn't make it because we find it icky", and because there's so much else to be concerned about besides the rights of nonexistent entities. We should remember that, lest we encourage congress to go ahead and ban everything, no?

[Thanks to everyone who sent this in, and tsurupeta for the translation!]






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its just a random target of people with to much time on their hands, its like kids with add dont give um anymore sugar and ignore um and they'll stop this eventually, just make sure they don't break anything before they get bored
Be sure to vote in the poll the CNN website!!!!!
"Should Japan ban sexually violent video games?"
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/
I don't think it's random at all. Kyung Lah has consistently published a series of articles depicting Japan in a bad light. Look, no country is perfect, we all know that, but it really seems to me that Lah is out to bash Japan specifically because I regularly see this kind of thing out of her. Compared to the United State Japan has a very low crime rate, and their sex crimes rate is a fraction of what ours is here. I think Rapelay is a pretty disgusting concept myself but at least in Japan all they did was make a game about it where here it is a regularly committed crime. Personally, I don't mind stuff like Rapelay being censored, nonetheless, I think Lah has an anti-Japan agenda here and I cannot help but wonder what on earth her deal is.

She ran that story about the Japanese mother taking her children back to Japan when it was clearly the American-born, Japanese naturalized father was being a total ass and was abusing the American court system.

I dunno, she seems to lack journalistic integrity.
^really good point, also people vote with what sanori posted
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/
its at bottom, the lulz are strong, its at like 70% no with like 15,000votes
@ BGFUSAB

She "seems" to lack journalistic integrity? That report is so biased that it could've come out of the worst tabloid. I didn't know CNN did junk like that.
Well, now I hate FOX AND CNN.

I don't wanna go back to reading newspapers, dammit. I'm too lazy for that. -_-
lol it went up to 2:1 saying no
As much as I hate this sensationalism, along with any sort of cultural essentialism, we do need to pressure Japan to be less sexist. I read some pretty disturbing things in school about the attitudes of Japanese judges towards rape. Among other things, if you met your rapist in a bar, you were asking for it.
So you're saying ALL Japanese men are rapists, Andy!?

WE're NO BETTER!!
@Andy
No, we do not need to pressure anybody to do anything just because that is the way we do it. Can you even support that statement with statistics that prove where you live has a lower rate of sexual assaults than Japan? I bet is is far higher...
Whatever. It's CNN, it's the old guard. Our generation is starting to have some real power these days.

People who watch "news" networks do so to reaffirm the beliefs they already have, not get information. So this will change nobody's opinions.

And yeah, this Kyung Lah is anti-Japanese. Because she's not Japanese. Asians are still openly and deeply racist toward each other. Is her name Korean, do you think? Even if Korean-American, her parents' generation's way of thinking might have had an influence on her.
@HoodedMiracle: here here!
She is in fact Korean. All there is to this story is pure Koren Vs. Japanese biased.
I'm not saying all Japanese men are rapists, and I'm not claiming there are fewer rapes in my area. I'm not saying that virtual sex games are bad, and you can love your lolicon all you want. I'm just saying that it's true that attitudes towards rape in Japan are biased towards the general assumption that women are "asking for it."

Treating women with respect is not something that is "just the way we do it." I'm fine with the low age of consent in Japan, and all the bondage anime, and I'll even give eroguro a free pass. But Japan really does have a terrible record on human trafficking, and that's not okay.

It's ironic that you're bringing up Korea v. Japan, given all the Korean women that were raped as "comfort women" by the Japanese during WWII.
If GTA had rape in it, it would probably be a better game...

Anyway, we all know the game is there, it's not as if everyone has stormed out to buy it and take it into any kind of creditable games rating list...
@Andy Although I feel with what you say, we cannot force people to do things "the way we do it". Forcing will never bring change, educating the society will. It's incredible how like a sheep society can be despite of how "first world country" they are, but if they didn't realize it there wouldn't be things like women-only train carriages. It's slow but sure.

@Nihon-freak Depending on how old she is, she could have lived first hand the Japanese invasion and experienced the horrible shit Japan put Korea (and other countries) through. Not condoning the low-handed disgusting way she does things nor I condone her anti-japanese stand, but as a fellow with the same roots I can understand why she is this way. I prefer not to remain ignorant to a countries flaws no matter how much I love them in any sort of way.
It's now 67% "No."

Is there a way to ramp it up to 99%. Perhaps by asking Destructoid and Tomopop denizens to help out?
BAM! get some!
1) this game is 4 years old, everyone with an Internet connection has known about it for years, most don't care
2) it was never sold in any legitimate way outside of Japan, only pirated by a dick from the UK and sold through Amazon for profit
3) no sane company would sell or distribute this game, it is internal to Japan only
4) the company pulled it ten months ago, it is totally unavailable except in pirated form online, which CNN has caused to increase
5) the newscaster who got this "scoop" is Korean, nope no bias there
6) the timing of CNN bringing up this old news, which is not new or fresh at all, just as America is fighting with Japan over the Futenma base in Okinawa, indicates this is part of the larger media game plan to harm Japan in our eyes. This is "manufactured" news, people.
The stories I've seen come from Kyung Lah about Japanese culture are just downright ignorant and examples of horribly biased and irresponsible journalism.
Hey, if they can go back in time, they could bring Michael Jackson back to life!
CNN needs to be banned for some serious necro posting.

"MY COUNTRY DISAGREES WITH THIS! ZOMG PROTECT THE CHILLUNS" It's bullshit like this that keeps a borders-free online community a pipe dream. I've played this before and I'm not out raping people (I do murder though, but that's a completely unrelated story due to something in our drinking water)...
Rather than go on about how CNN is bad, I'm just going to lament over how America has no good news stations...

I seriously wish the BBC would start broadcasting over here...
@ADD You mean like with BBC America?
It's as easy as this: You don't like it, you don't buy it. But what the hell do censors/news reporters think they are, telling somebody else to ban a videogame entirely?! I don't like gangsta rap, but you don't see me leading a f*cking crusade to abolish it altogether!! Free will, ladies and gentlemen, respect it.
I think I'm gonna post a link to the CNN video on 4chan. many lulz will be had.
OMFGZ a virtual girl is been raped in a video game!!!!. I thought we had a rating system.

I lmao when she said that the woman thing group said no one should play a game where the only way to win is by rape xD. I mean who knows, maybe youll rape someone in real life and you get prizes.
They really shouldn't be telling a whole other culture what to do. It's totally biased and wrong to judge them and force rules upon them. I mean, its an online phenomenon for pervs, but if anyone has a problem with it, they can just NOT BUY it, its nothing to force censor bars onto. CNN can go suck a juicebox.

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