Also, I was incredibly giddy when I heard M-FLO was going to be composing the music. An absolutely flawless soundtrack so far!
" I don't think GAINAX really ever goes into a production with the idea of trying to deliver fan-service"
Clearly you have been watching a completely different gainax to the rest of us Mike.
"I'm Running! I'm Running!"
And I don't know if this show can really be considered fresh and revolutionary. The artistic style has already been done in some shape or form in animation, and if it is innovative at all, it's only by a hair. And the humor is a slight mix of Excel Saga and.... something else..
so I can't really call this show all that 'fresh'
Still, this show seems like a breath of fresh air to me. I didn't have very high expectations to go in, so this show was a pleasant surprise.
Oh, sure, it's definitely a parody of a magical girl transformation, but you really think it's not going to be received as fanservice, regardless of the original intent?
@Mari Hikiko
Well, I don't think it's fresh or revolutionary. I just think it's fun and crass. And the crass part needs to be done a little better. Anyone who thinks this is revolutionary is missing the point of the show. So I guess I'm agreeing with you.
@KagatoTEG
He's not Gir verbatim, just a lookalike.
@Dragonzigg
Looking over that again, I'm not sure what Mike meant by that either.
Well, that's why I said "simultaneously." I got the impression from the article that you two thought it was just purely fan service rather than a mix of the two elements, but if I'm mistaken in that view then I rescind my questioning of your perspective.
the animation was technically good, but it still felt lop sided and annoying to me. the characters were annoying and unappealing from their first second on camera and the art style made the whole thing feel like it was just some 12 year old's pitch to nickelodean that somehow got made.
oh, but i barely noticed the music. so you can chalk that as being inoffensive enough to call a minor win.
a profoundly stupid and ugly show that has no redeeming qualities but for some reason will be heralded as good for reasons beyond me. like K-on all over...but with fart jokes
If GAINAX is so big on delivering fan-service, as it seems you are implying, then why do so many of their shows cause viewers to have an either "love it" or "hate it" response?
That said, although I think it was an entertaining episode, I don't want 12 more episodes (or however many is scheduled) with the same formula. Over-the-top animation without substance can only get you so far. Also I agree it needs more sources of comedy delivery. The 1st ep relied just a bit too heavily on Panty's sexual deviance.
For the people who may not get it, try not to take this type of show too seriously.
Loved it ^^ I'm watching it for sure this season.
I'm with Dragonzigg.. Gainax bounce anyone? They have been instrumental in defining new ways of bringing about fan service for years I do not think it was all unintentional.
As for the first episode the animation definitely had some high points as pointed out in this post. The screen shots here have them covered pretty well. The rest I could take it or leave it. Its consistent and smooth I just don't like the way it looks. I could go on and try and define what it is that bothers me about it but I don't want to risk turning this thread into a hate flame on western animation(as it nearly did last time I posted on the topic) so I will just leave it at I don't care for it.
The art is still the biggest turn off for me but beyond that I won't be watching because of the content I simply didn't find this show to be funny. It felt like every gag revolved around Panty being a hoe and it was old by the second time it came up imo.
I am overall unimpressed although this never really appealed to me to begin with. I won't be watching more.
In the top 10 list of studios known for delivering fan-service, you would not find GAINAX. I'm done defending them. Wait. Is delivering fan-service a negative thing?
Also, for the art complainers: http://web1.twitpic.com/img/171655560-e157172bf9892a3349b3879c466f4ed8.4ca806c8-full.jpg
Also, I really dig the ED Song.
Let me preface by saying that you generally don't watch western animation (Zim, PPG, Dexters Lab, ect) with any sort of judgment about the monster or problem of the week because they last 15 minutes then you don't have to deal with it again. You don't judge how "revolutionary" the art or style is because the show establishes its own artistic base then can slide in and out of styles from episode to episode as it pleases for comedic or plot/stylistic effect or as a parody/homage to other works.
You mostly watch western animation for mindless entertainment and a few laughs.
Gainax set out to make a western style animated TV show in the vein of the late 90s to early 00s Cartoon Network/Nick and in that regard they succeeded fantastically. Assuming you kept an open mind and little in terms of expectation for plot and exposition like you might for some of the above shows, then you probably had a great time watching it like I did.
I guess its best not to think of this show as a typical anime, rather think of it as a western animated TV show that follows the classic conventions of old Cartoon Network, but that grew up with us and got an injection of crass/ mature/and outright sex humor along the way.
This entire show is a parody/homage of that style and if you missed that then I'm guessing you probably never liked the 'classics' much to begin with.
if you don't like something, that doesn't automatically mean you're taking it too seriously--
it means you simply don't like it
I genuinely enjoyed it, and here is why: I loved Western cartoons as a kid and Gainax has created something that is truly a twisted hybrid of the best offerings of both anime and Western animation, and that's something I can appreciate. It also has some wildly great animation which just totally works with the bold and unique artstyle.
I can understand why people wouldn't like Panty and Stocking, it has quite a few tiny faults that could potentially become huge if not addressed. But as for now, Panty and Stocking is shaping up to be a fun and entertaining show, and I would expect no less from Gainax.
But do they have to call my girls bitches so often? D:
Hopefully the show will take after western animation in more ways than style; Most shows start out a bit rough around the edges, but find what works along the way and end up a lot stronger than they started.
Is Gainax "fanservice anime company"? Of course not. Gainax has made consistently high quality shows. However, they don't shy away from fanservice. There's no reason to. And they do it in a way that doesn't take away from the impact of the show.
Gunbuster (1988): I remember the girls tight space outfits and the bath scene in space. But it was also very serious sci-fi (hard sci-fi, with real physics).
Otaku no Video (1991): A very interesting "mockumentary" about otaku mixed with animation.
Evangelion (1995): Made fun how much fanservice it was providing in many (all?) next episode previews, but was undoubtedly one of the most important anime of that decade (and beyond).
He is My Master (2005): Loli maid fanservice every episode. Was also funny and entertaining.
Wikipedia just reminded me that Gainax made their own Evangelion Strip Mahjong game. How's that for fanservice?
That transformation scene will be stuck in my head for years to come and the raining police cars scene was also nice. Overall I think Gainax pulled off the first episode pretty well.

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