The way I see it, if something was created, it's not empty by definition. It might be vapid and inane (not that K-ON! is, I was just looking for negative adjectives), but it wouldn't be empty.
It's also a crown jewel of the I want to take it easy trend, which is something I imagine a lot of animefans - with more stressful lives than mine - welcome with open arms. It can't be just the moe. From what I gather the fans enjoy K-On! for the very same qualities that lead me to label it as "boring", and Azuma as "empty". To each his own. As far as artistic merit goes though, I don't see a lot of it in K-On!.
By the way, April 7th is my birthday. What are the odds.
Thank you! I know most people like fight filled animes, or something morbidly psychological, but I love slice of life because of that laid back atmosphere. (also, agreed about enjoying life without letting your dreams consume you, very nice thoughts there)
I guess I can understand people though; it's like me being sick of harem animes.
But more importantly, thank you for backing me up that Ritsu is superior.
All of my animes don't have to be deep or violent.. 'The Girl Who Leaped Through Time' was neither. I enjoy scenes when the characters sit around and relax, (ROD The TV) but it can't be almost the whole show, because then, I feel like I'm watching some reality TV bs.
KyoAni, it's been almost a year and I'm beginning to suffer from withdrawal. Give me a new god damned adaptation already.
I'd even be happy with just a freaking Planetarian OVA.
And yes, Ritsu makes foreheads sexy.
But you know what, I never considered those themes of acceptance and the value of what you have in front of you. You raise a good point there.
Ironically, I think K-ON! actually has the most plot out of the three shows you mentioned. AD and SB are complete slice of life shows, in K-ON! the characters actually do advance towards a goal.
Perhaps I'm the goofball here *rant* but I tend to think that many of the people who dislike K-ON! can't handle the "doing the right thing" to the extent that they do in the show. Its one thing to help out with your magical powers vs. working a job so your friend can buy the guitar of their dreams.
Anyway, I hope they can keep it going in the second season...go somewhere and not just spin in place like Haruhi.
All time fav line: "Baka Ritsu!"
I really related to some parts of the actual story in terms when you first start playing music with other people..... And as you keep going down that road you end up running into the same crap, joys and types of people...
I found K-ON! very funny, fun, entertaining and sometimes depressing because I was reminded about things that are similar to people I know, have known and about my self. And not always good things...
This is all if you just ignore all the moe aspects which I tend to do anyway.
The emptiness I see in K-ON comes from its lack of realism. Shows like Azumanga Daioh and Beck have moments where the characters felt very real to me. That never happened for me in K-ON. Most of the time they just hung around making cute noises. The best part of K-ON was the music, but it never really lived up to my hopes (Azumanga Daioh + Beck, or at least that scene in Haruhi where she's in a band).
Just tired of so much moe stuff. While the premise of a female school band might sound good, IMO, its presented this way purely for fan service and merchandise reasons. Notice how there are no males in that band, which is cleverly conceived. If their band were mixed, it would have created some possible long triangle/square angst, and a vastly better show, presenting the jealousy, conflict and rivalry that raises its head in some real bands, a real missed chance. Wouldn't want any male characters to get in the way of that wish fulfillment.
I have no problem with slice of life shows, as I've enjoyed some in the past, so long as some form of substance rises through to the top. Here, I think the moe gets in the way of what could have been much better. What also is troubling is that K-ON gets plenty of attention, when something with more substance of story like Nodame Cantabile, gets largely overloooked by many.
K-ON is a nice change in its own right for music based anime/manga, but the moe will sell it short, just like So ra no whatever, but perhaps not as bad as that show. Stable mates, Beck and Detroit Metal City do a better job of it.
Music can be a complex subject but with this, I still get the impression it plays second fiddle to the cast. However, Hideo Azuma has problems with K-ON for its lack of OTT fan service. While K-ON is a bit vapid, yes, I have to disagree with him on that one. As more anime is sold abroad, it doesn't hurt to tone things down in some shows from the get go.
Enjoy it if its your thing, but I'll pass.
It was unclear from his statement whether or not Azuma was referring to the lack of sex appeal in the show, or a lack of interest in the show altogether; considering how many people call K-ON! "empty" in a very general sense, what he meant specifically isn't that important to me personally.
K-ON! has some moments that felt realistic to me- for example, when they get their first backstage passes and are torn between being excited and wondering where the hell they're supposed to put them; that's totally what I would be like in that situation. Ditto for that moment of shared awe the first time they plug the guitar into the amp and hear the chord reverberate through the room.
I think there's a tendency to call K-ON! unrealistic just because it deals with the happier, lighter side of life, but I don't think that's really fair. IMO, people tend to call shows "realistic" when the characters are spewing angst all over the place, and I know my life certainly isn't like that most of the time.
And I do understand what you mean about identifying with the show.
I'm not really explaining what I meant about "realism." A big part of it is feeling like you really understand how the characters feel, in a complex way. You're reminded me that I did feel that on occasion with K-On. The problem was that I most identified with Mio, especially when she got frustrated with the other girls for screwing around instead of actually playing music.
...and I'll probably watch the next season.
I may not always want to watch a "K-On" type of show, but it's not the worst show to come out in awhile. Sure, it ain't a Satoshi Kon film or animated by Leiji Matsumoto but it's not dreck either.
Maybe this blog has been put together so carefuly people don't dare spewing their bs on it? Good job Karen, this is exactly how I feel when I'm watching K-on.
Btw, Azuma, jealous perhaps?
I can see why the K-on show seems 'empty' to him though, but then try explaining why Azumanga Daioh is any more 'full'. As a yonkoma I really liked Azumanga Daioh more, the gags are clever instead of depending on personality quirks the whole time, but I couldn't relate to them at all, partly because of his way of drawing which strikes me as liveless sometimes, partly because it never grew beyond a gag comic in my head, sure the themes of growing up and becoming more independent were there, but never in favour of themselves, they were there to lay out jokes. I never finished the anime, because animated, with voices, I was confronted with how devoid of life -empty vessels telling me jokes- I saw his characters. The case was different from K-on, from the second I read the manga I knew the anime was going to be great, I could totally relate to these characters, because other than the characters from Azuma, these girls had feelings, sure Azumanga Daioh is funnier, but I bet he can never deliver characters the way Kakifly does.
I think that last part you wrote about Ritsu really encapsulates why only creepy otaku like this show. They want to view the idelized version of an innocent girl without actually interacting with real three-dimentional girls because.... I dunno, they think real girls are scary or something?
I'll remember that the next time someone reads anything into Evangellion. Or for that matter most other Anime.
But not attacking the presented ideas and instead trying to argue with what amounts to "SORRY CAN'T HEAR YOU" makes you a perfect candidate to be a politician.
Although I bet you also think Chu-Bra!! and B Gata H Kei are both vapid empty things. I'd chalk that up to not understanding real life and being too much of an Otaku.
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