naruto's anime was good (not great, but good) until they hit the filler arc. Then new animation teams came in and turned every episode into a chore to watch with sloppy animation and long drawn out battles reminiscent of DBZ.
I also expect a counter Top 50 to be made to showcase your own picks.
I also expect a counter Top 50 to be made to showcase your own picks.
@mana:
I'll just keep on commenting on the Japanator articles and rejecting certain titles from my high and mighty C-Blog throne ^_^
I don't think I'd manage to think of 50 truly industry-changing titles to begin with. Secondly, I probably wouldn't establish any order within the list. It's difficult and time consuming - also, every anime on this list should be a must-watch anyways.
@king3vbo:
It's a super-mutant Pipboy :D
@Ben Huber:
Thanks for the template + love :)
@SeancetheBLADE:
Epic lists beg for epic reactions.
I'll just keep on commenting on the Japanator articles and rejecting certain titles from my high and mighty C-Blog throne ^_^
I don't think I'd manage to think of 50 truly industry-changing titles to begin with. Secondly, I probably wouldn't establish any order within the list. It's difficult and time consuming - also, every anime on this list should be a must-watch anyways.
@king3vbo:
It's a super-mutant Pipboy :D
@Ben Huber:
Thanks for the template + love :)
@SeancetheBLADE:
Epic lists beg for epic reactions.
So you hate Romeo x Juliet because it was completely rewritten?
I guess you should stay away from the theatre (with the live actors). I hear they wear pants now and allow women to play men! Shock! Horror!
Seriously, Romeo x Juliet is excellent if you can just enjoy the story without referencing Shakespeare - too much.
/leaps back into stargate
I guess you should stay away from the theatre (with the live actors). I hear they wear pants now and allow women to play men! Shock! Horror!
Seriously, Romeo x Juliet is excellent if you can just enjoy the story without referencing Shakespeare - too much.
/leaps back into stargate
@Rewarp
I wouldn't discourage anyone to write or rewrite stories, but if you compare the Gonzo version and the original Romeo and Juliet then it's obvious which of the two is more powerful and compelling.
The whole point of this c-blog is to try and filter out the anime shows that wouldn't be as important or culturally valuable to the anime industry 10 years from now.
I really love Darker than Black and think it's an awesome show, but I don't think it's one of this decade's greatest series.
I don't particularly love Ouran High School Host Club, but I do think it's one of this decade's most important shows.
I don't regard Romeo x Juliet as one of this decade's great masterpieces. Aside from the question whether or not the alterations devalue the story (clearly opinions can vary widely there) the story is borrowed. The animation is decent but not revolutionary and the alone music will not be enough to set the series apart 10 years from now. All in all, that's why I wouldn't put it in a list about the summation of the decade.
I wouldn't discourage anyone to write or rewrite stories, but if you compare the Gonzo version and the original Romeo and Juliet then it's obvious which of the two is more powerful and compelling.
The whole point of this c-blog is to try and filter out the anime shows that wouldn't be as important or culturally valuable to the anime industry 10 years from now.
I really love Darker than Black and think it's an awesome show, but I don't think it's one of this decade's greatest series.
I don't particularly love Ouran High School Host Club, but I do think it's one of this decade's most important shows.
I don't regard Romeo x Juliet as one of this decade's great masterpieces. Aside from the question whether or not the alterations devalue the story (clearly opinions can vary widely there) the story is borrowed. The animation is decent but not revolutionary and the alone music will not be enough to set the series apart 10 years from now. All in all, that's why I wouldn't put it in a list about the summation of the decade.
Heh, nice take on Japanator's list. I definitely find myself agreeing with you on a few points.
Also, Pipboy icons FTW.
Also, Pipboy icons FTW.
I also have to disagree with you on Darker than Black. The cat detective arc was awesome and you know it.
"Due to this, alot of anime series simply have to be represented in the list because they're popular, not because they're good."
You know they voted for each shows they liked right?
Also your comment about Clannad making the list. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with it being good or well rated could it? XD
You know they voted for each shows they liked right?
Also your comment about Clannad making the list. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with it being good or well rated could it? XD
I'm a sucker for lists. I know they are evil and make you look stupid, but I love them!
-Darker Than Black has a interesting concept, but has no real plot, the past of the characters are barely touched during the show. The action scenes are good, but nothing more than that.
-I still don't get Bakemonogatari. It's just a bunch of random talking. Bla bla bla.
-Death Note is overhyped by fangirls who draw hentai about L and Light, and underhyped by everyone else. When the anime got popular, it suddenly became "cool" to bash Death Note. It has a intelligent plot, interesting characters (except for Misa, who is there just for fanservice) and a unique theme.
-Black Lagoonn is awesome, it should be higher. As simple as that.
-Naruto has awesome fight scenes in the beggining, but now, even the manga is a crappy DBZ rippof about emo teenagers who want to save/destroy the world. It deserves a place in the list because of the first season, but it must remain in the last place because of what it is now.
-Cromartie is awesome, it should be higher too.
-Harem animes are like poop, you can try to make them pretty, but it's just poop.
And that's my wall of text. Ignore me. Sorry.
-Darker Than Black has a interesting concept, but has no real plot, the past of the characters are barely touched during the show. The action scenes are good, but nothing more than that.
-I still don't get Bakemonogatari. It's just a bunch of random talking. Bla bla bla.
-Death Note is overhyped by fangirls who draw hentai about L and Light, and underhyped by everyone else. When the anime got popular, it suddenly became "cool" to bash Death Note. It has a intelligent plot, interesting characters (except for Misa, who is there just for fanservice) and a unique theme.
-Black Lagoonn is awesome, it should be higher. As simple as that.
-Naruto has awesome fight scenes in the beggining, but now, even the manga is a crappy DBZ rippof about emo teenagers who want to save/destroy the world. It deserves a place in the list because of the first season, but it must remain in the last place because of what it is now.
-Cromartie is awesome, it should be higher too.
-Harem animes are like poop, you can try to make them pretty, but it's just poop.
And that's my wall of text. Ignore me. Sorry.
@Darksorrow29
While that's true, I think only one Japanator staffmember really likes the show.
I found that the Clannad description in the Japanator list has a tongue in cheek description. "If you're going to point to any Key show as the one to watch" (= If you truly must torture yourself) and "A romance of huge depth, according to the fans," (= Only a handful of people think it's any good)
Ofcourse opinions may vary and that's only a good thing ;)
@Rank57
I hear you, arbitrary lists are awesome and so is arguing about them.
While that's true, I think only one Japanator staffmember really likes the show.
I found that the Clannad description in the Japanator list has a tongue in cheek description. "If you're going to point to any Key show as the one to watch" (= If you truly must torture yourself) and "A romance of huge depth, according to the fans," (= Only a handful of people think it's any good)
Ofcourse opinions may vary and that's only a good thing ;)
@Rank57
I hear you, arbitrary lists are awesome and so is arguing about them.
I actually had the opposite reaction to Moyashimon. I thought that Mushishi was beautiful but ultimately too relaxed where as Moyashimon had as interesting a cast a lot more fun behind it. Plus the 2 festival episodes are probably the most fun I've had back to back in watching an anime in a while.
I completely agree with your Kannagi opinion. That show was interesting, but not better than Bakemonogatari or Ouran.
I completely agree with your Kannagi opinion. That show was interesting, but not better than Bakemonogatari or Ouran.
Code Geass is still extremely addictive, as bad as everyone makes it sound.
In retrospect, it has the effect of drugs with the side effects of regret for liking them in the first place, and knowing you will go back eventually.
In retrospect, it has the effect of drugs with the side effects of regret for liking them in the first place, and knowing you will go back eventually.
I'm gonna have to give Code Geass a pass because like Rewarp points out, it's like crack. When an anime can make me so high I'll stop caring about how bad it actually is and has me F5'ing Tokyotosho in hopes of finding gg's next sub, that's worth something. Definitely not #21, but sure it can go on the list. Other than that I once again completely agree (Love Hina being the only show here I never finished watching).
Also Mandril, if you can trust my taste in anime, don't bother with Xam'd. The story the staff somehow managed to praise is pretty retarded to begin with, but it also suffers from awful exposition, a lack of likeable characters, and truly the worst ending in ages. Sure it looks amazing, but I wish all the funds and effort that went into making it look that way were spent on a better story and a better director. The only good thing I can say about Xam'd is that, thematically, it reminds me more of Ghibli than Eureka Seven, but then again it only shows how Ghibli is truly in a league of its own when it comes to civilization versus nature.
Also Mandril, if you can trust my taste in anime, don't bother with Xam'd. The story the staff somehow managed to praise is pretty retarded to begin with, but it also suffers from awful exposition, a lack of likeable characters, and truly the worst ending in ages. Sure it looks amazing, but I wish all the funds and effort that went into making it look that way were spent on a better story and a better director. The only good thing I can say about Xam'd is that, thematically, it reminds me more of Ghibli than Eureka Seven, but then again it only shows how Ghibli is truly in a league of its own when it comes to civilization versus nature.
The sad part about Geass is that it had huge potential. They build up all this mysticism around the Emperor and his machinations and in the end he goes out with a whimper and the series reverts to the constant one-upping of mech technology.
And we know Lelocuh is alive, he had the double Geass, and thus immortal, why won't those bastards just tell us!
And we know Lelocuh is alive, he had the double Geass, and thus immortal, why won't those bastards just tell us!
@mana
That's cool, to each his own. I thought Mushishi showed guts by not throwing in any comic relief or action. The show is more interesting to me because of it.
In the end both shows do try something completely different. Still, I'm trying to strip the list down to its bare essentials and I think Mushishi is more unique in what it does.
@Rewarp
That's true. I'm totally dependent on my dose of Code Geass as well and I'll certainly fall back into addiction once the new manga series arrives.
Once you stop taking that drug you start to feel physically ill at first. We'd kill a man for our Code Geass injection, but objectively speaking it's not an extraordinary show.
@PBz0r
It definately belongs in a top 50 list like Japanator's. I'm not making my list that long though, I'll just be listing the essential shows of this decade, without any filler.
I think our tastes align quite well, so I can trust your opinion, but I'll probably end up watching it anyway someday against better judgement. Especially if the eyecandy is nice.
@seltzermx
Right, if it wasn't for the second season I'd probably judge Code Geass more favorably.
Personally I thought the ending to the series was quite enjoyable until they hinted at Lelouch still being alive. The ending would've had alot more punch if it actually ended with his death.
That's cool, to each his own. I thought Mushishi showed guts by not throwing in any comic relief or action. The show is more interesting to me because of it.
In the end both shows do try something completely different. Still, I'm trying to strip the list down to its bare essentials and I think Mushishi is more unique in what it does.
@Rewarp
That's true. I'm totally dependent on my dose of Code Geass as well and I'll certainly fall back into addiction once the new manga series arrives.
Once you stop taking that drug you start to feel physically ill at first. We'd kill a man for our Code Geass injection, but objectively speaking it's not an extraordinary show.
@PBz0r
It definately belongs in a top 50 list like Japanator's. I'm not making my list that long though, I'll just be listing the essential shows of this decade, without any filler.
I think our tastes align quite well, so I can trust your opinion, but I'll probably end up watching it anyway someday against better judgement. Especially if the eyecandy is nice.
@seltzermx
Right, if it wasn't for the second season I'd probably judge Code Geass more favorably.
Personally I thought the ending to the series was quite enjoyable until they hinted at Lelouch still being alive. The ending would've had alot more punch if it actually ended with his death.
@Mandril: Yeah, the first season is epic. I was rewatching some first season eps yesterday, and yeah, great show. And yeah, his death did give the ending some "punch" but I don't know, he was too likeable a character for me to see him die. I want an OVA set like 50 years in the future, with everyone else old and dying and him and C.C. alive and living in some farm or something :)
And another thing I found too unbelieveable was the amount of his siblings he left alive, especially Schneizel and Cornelia. They are both very power hungry, yet we see them both there alive at the end. You know they're gonna start a power struggle eventually.
And another thing I found too unbelieveable was the amount of his siblings he left alive, especially Schneizel and Cornelia. They are both very power hungry, yet we see them both there alive at the end. You know they're gonna start a power struggle eventually.
Outside of my absolute disagreement of your assessment of BECK this is a good criticism as far as I can tell. I've not seen several of the entries but I agree on what I have (BECK caveat aside). I do like that this list does a good job of reinforcing the "despite the numbers it's still 'in no particular order'" mindset I now take into all lists.
GJ! some hits and some misses. I'd be a rich man if I got a 5c every time someone tries to undermine Rahxephon's individual merits with Eva! Or alternatively, someone who hasn't seen Eva 2.0 trying to write off the Rebuild as something just like the old TV series.
Again, very nice. Pipboy ftw.
Again, very nice. Pipboy ftw.
For at least two of these titles I have to say that the manga was infinitely better thus tarnishing their standing. Genshiken in manga form just has better timing than the show and Full Metal Alchemist was damn near perfect until they decided to make up their own ending (and movie).
I also have to agree on Toradora. Good but there are alot of good shows. I'm looking for great and Toradora wasn't great.
I also have to agree on Toradora. Good but there are alot of good shows. I'm looking for great and Toradora wasn't great.
It's just about the glorification of violence and the spectacle that comes forth from the setting. By putting extra effort into fleshing out the relationships this show only manages to underline how morally absurd it truly is.
That statement makes me wonder whether you were thoroughly inebriated while you were watching this anime. This was the first anime that made me feel as if I just walked into a Carl Sagan exposé on the universe - how infinitely large and deep it really is.
I fail to see how a discussion on child soldiers, the imposition of our ideals on our children, the morality of saving others with the implicit contractual agreement that the person saved would do anything you wanted them to do (I am looking at Catholics in Africa), and finding moments of peace in between violence personified in 13 episodes to be anything that glorifies violence.
Also, Gunslinger Girl is the only manga I have spent money on to date.
/mini-rant by a rabid fan.
That statement makes me wonder whether you were thoroughly inebriated while you were watching this anime. This was the first anime that made me feel as if I just walked into a Carl Sagan exposé on the universe - how infinitely large and deep it really is.
I fail to see how a discussion on child soldiers, the imposition of our ideals on our children, the morality of saving others with the implicit contractual agreement that the person saved would do anything you wanted them to do (I am looking at Catholics in Africa), and finding moments of peace in between violence personified in 13 episodes to be anything that glorifies violence.
Also, Gunslinger Girl is the only manga I have spent money on to date.
/mini-rant by a rabid fan.
ah come really romeo x juliet has by far one best english audio of 09 yet my pick for english audio of 09 & beisdes i've seen it 10 times in 09.
also on GS really it more focus on characters, story, emotion, drama, etc like a gundam version of Jdrama & yet that why i watch the GS & also it really always be my "series".
also on GS really it more focus on characters, story, emotion, drama, etc like a gundam version of Jdrama & yet that why i watch the GS & also it really always be my "series".
That's strange. Your opinion over Beck is completely opposite than mine, but I can understand it. Maybe Beck is "too real" indeed, and has nothing new. But I still love it.
As for Code Geass, it is good, but I said before, I like Death Note better. Death Note lives to the "chess play" comparison better, since it's 1 vs 1, and the one who makes a mistake will die.
Now, to the top 10. I will come back later to rage in case Hajime no Ippo New Challenger, Claymore and Soul Eater stay out of this. Or if K-On! or Haruhi takes the 1st place.
As for Code Geass, it is good, but I said before, I like Death Note better. Death Note lives to the "chess play" comparison better, since it's 1 vs 1, and the one who makes a mistake will die.
Now, to the top 10. I will come back later to rage in case Hajime no Ippo New Challenger, Claymore and Soul Eater stay out of this. Or if K-On! or Haruhi takes the 1st place.
Glorification of violence may be a wrong cholce of words - in short, I simply think the moral message is wrong, which makes the whole ordeal quite depressing. Gunslinger Girl is deep, but it remains fucked up. There's just something not right about cheering on the little murdering girls.
That's the whole beauty of Gunslinger Girl. It just feels so wrong, but it parallels the real world in many ways. It is depressing, but in a smart way, and not some kind of apocalyptic world way - because everything except for the cyborg technology has a real world example.
At the end of the first season, we all see one very straightforward message - we were all once children, some of us just don't get to have a childhood Those of us with the luxury to enjoy one, should appreciate it.
At the end of the first season, we all see one very straightforward message - we were all once children, some of us just don't get to have a childhood Those of us with the luxury to enjoy one, should appreciate it.
That message still bothers me, though. I don't think having a childhood is a privilege and we should be happy that we can enjoy it, I think it's a fundamental human right and we should be fighting for those who can't.
I have to confess, I'm glad the list is nearing its conclusion. I feel like a real asshole sometimes for dismissing shows which some people love dearly. One of my resolutions will be to talk more about things I like about series and less about the dislikes.
Also, let me stress that I enjoyed watching almost all shows in the Japanator list. I love anime and I wouldn't watch so much of it if I hated all these shows. Almost all of them are great fun. What it all comes down to is: "The greatest shows of the decade". I'd like that title to be more prestigious and honorable by only rewarding it to a select few.
I have to confess, I'm glad the list is nearing its conclusion. I feel like a real asshole sometimes for dismissing shows which some people love dearly. One of my resolutions will be to talk more about things I like about series and less about the dislikes.
Also, let me stress that I enjoyed watching almost all shows in the Japanator list. I love anime and I wouldn't watch so much of it if I hated all these shows. Almost all of them are great fun. What it all comes down to is: "The greatest shows of the decade". I'd like that title to be more prestigious and honorable by only rewarding it to a select few.
Nodame Cantabile is going on my to watch list. Besides Azumanga and Utena I don't think JC Staff has ever made a show worth a dime, but I keep hearing great things about it from all sorts of people.
Something tells me we're not going to stuff like Now and Then, Here and There, Mononoke, Diebuster, Hajime no Ippo, Kaiji or Kaiba in the top ten. So on that note, I'd be interested in hearing about some more of your own picks for the decade after the Japanator list is complete. :)
Something tells me we're not going to stuff like Now and Then, Here and There, Mononoke, Diebuster, Hajime no Ippo, Kaiji or Kaiba in the top ten. So on that note, I'd be interested in hearing about some more of your own picks for the decade after the Japanator list is complete. :)
I hope you like classical music, because it's one of the things that makes Nodame Cantabile so unique.
A list of personal picks is definately coming up. Unfortunately, there are a few series I have not seen yet but keep hearing good things about (namely Mononoke, Infinite Ryvius, also I have not seen Diebuster) - those are all going on a seperate "things I haven't seen with potential"-list, as I obviously can't estimate their value.
Also, there's going to have to be an honorable mentions list. There are plenty of great series/movies that are not on the Jtor list, won't be on my list, but deserve some praise.
List list list, list list. List list list list.
A list of personal picks is definately coming up. Unfortunately, there are a few series I have not seen yet but keep hearing good things about (namely Mononoke, Infinite Ryvius, also I have not seen Diebuster) - those are all going on a seperate "things I haven't seen with potential"-list, as I obviously can't estimate their value.
Also, there's going to have to be an honorable mentions list. There are plenty of great series/movies that are not on the Jtor list, won't be on my list, but deserve some praise.
List list list, list list. List list list list.
Boring New Year's holliday turned so much fun talking about anime, huh? To me, at least! =)
My personal favorite anime and manga is Hajime no Ippo, so I would love to see it in the top 10, but I doubt it will be there. Soul Eater and Claymore are great animes with big "support" from the Japanator crew and didn't appear in the list yet, and I doubt both will stay out of a top 50.
This leaves Haruhi, K-On!, Gurren Lagann and some Gundam fighting for the top spot. If other series takes number one, it will be a huge surprise.
In my honorable mentions, I would like to put Casshern Sins (deep meaning), Karas (superb animation), Shura no Toki (more realistic approach to samurai than your average anime), Yakushiji Ryoko Case Files (just because Ryoko rocks!) and maybe Needless, which is a guilty pleasure of mine, really cheesy, but sometimes Adam Blade can almost be as badass as Kamina. Almost.
My personal favorite anime and manga is Hajime no Ippo, so I would love to see it in the top 10, but I doubt it will be there. Soul Eater and Claymore are great animes with big "support" from the Japanator crew and didn't appear in the list yet, and I doubt both will stay out of a top 50.
This leaves Haruhi, K-On!, Gurren Lagann and some Gundam fighting for the top spot. If other series takes number one, it will be a huge surprise.
In my honorable mentions, I would like to put Casshern Sins (deep meaning), Karas (superb animation), Shura no Toki (more realistic approach to samurai than your average anime), Yakushiji Ryoko Case Files (just because Ryoko rocks!) and maybe Needless, which is a guilty pleasure of mine, really cheesy, but sometimes Adam Blade can almost be as badass as Kamina. Almost.
About Kimi ni Todoke: I think it's a damned if we do, damned if we don't situation. It's not over, but the only alternative would be to save it for a hypothetical "best of decade" list in 2020, by which point everyone will be saying "wait, wasn't that last decade?" Personally my feeling is that KnT is better at this point even as a 12-episode OVA than a lot of other anime, so it deserves to be on the list. KnT just put us in a kind of difficult situation because while in general all of the shows on the list should be fully available, every single one of us just loves the show.
I find it really interesting that you use the "I like it, but I don't think it's actually that great,", or "I don't like it personally, but I think it deserves credit because it's quality," line of reasoning. I go with that myself sometimes- I may have watched 200 episodes of Sailor Moon and giggled like a school girl, but I never talk about it like it's a great show that everyone should watch (although it would be good if edited down to a smidgeon of it's original length, but that's another story.) But it's problematic when you find yourself saying "I enjoyed the hell out of it and couldn't stop watching, but yeah, OBJECTIVELY it's not that good." Is it really objective? Or is it bowing to what seems to be the opinion of authority, even if not consciously? It's like assuming that your personal idiosyncrasies, which made the show so enjoyable to you, probably don't line up with anyone else's, so the show can't be that good for anyone else. Or that the reasons why you dislike a show are due to nothing more than personal idiosyncrasies, so your reasons for disliking it (personal) must not be as important as the 'objective' reasons why people say it's good. But of course, you can't be truly objective about fiction, it's just about trying to moderate your personal reaction with a degree of objectivity. So can you value the objective strengths of the show when technically, they don't actually exist?
Like I said I use this line of reasoning myself all the time, so I'm not arguing with your assessment of the shows in question; it just raises a lot of interesting questions for me.
I find it really interesting that you use the "I like it, but I don't think it's actually that great,", or "I don't like it personally, but I think it deserves credit because it's quality," line of reasoning. I go with that myself sometimes- I may have watched 200 episodes of Sailor Moon and giggled like a school girl, but I never talk about it like it's a great show that everyone should watch (although it would be good if edited down to a smidgeon of it's original length, but that's another story.) But it's problematic when you find yourself saying "I enjoyed the hell out of it and couldn't stop watching, but yeah, OBJECTIVELY it's not that good." Is it really objective? Or is it bowing to what seems to be the opinion of authority, even if not consciously? It's like assuming that your personal idiosyncrasies, which made the show so enjoyable to you, probably don't line up with anyone else's, so the show can't be that good for anyone else. Or that the reasons why you dislike a show are due to nothing more than personal idiosyncrasies, so your reasons for disliking it (personal) must not be as important as the 'objective' reasons why people say it's good. But of course, you can't be truly objective about fiction, it's just about trying to moderate your personal reaction with a degree of objectivity. So can you value the objective strengths of the show when technically, they don't actually exist?
Like I said I use this line of reasoning myself all the time, so I'm not arguing with your assessment of the shows in question; it just raises a lot of interesting questions for me.
I look forward to an honorable mention list. If I had any say I would put up Nanoha. I loved Claymore until the last few episodes that were meh. Also it was one of those shows that had to end, even though manga was still ongoing. Casshern Sins was alright, but a bit too depressing. I accept what it's doing with each episode is centered around a moral/theme, don't get me wrong. However it doesn't seem fun to watch, and that's why I dropped it awhile back. I might pick it up again, just to see it through to the end.
@Rank57
This end-of-the decade list is making me painfully aware how many shows I've actually missed and how unqualified I may be. Apart from Needless, I'm ashamed to say I have not watched any of the shows in your last paragraph. Due to my ignorance they might have to go on a special 'unseen' list... And no, Needless won't be on any of my lists :p
@Karen Gellender
Now and Then, Here and There will definately be one of my picks (maybe the most important one of them all) and it started airing in 1999. But I know what you mean with KnT. This may sound somewhat odd, but I think Japanator has a certain responsibility in pandering to its audience. The content is provided to please the readers, which is why popularity of a show plays a bigger part in Jtor's top 50.
You make an interesting point, but I don't think it's that hard to critically break down a show you genuinely love. It has more to do with objectivity being a loose term here. I'm assessing every show based on certain standards of quality which are generally accepted by humanity. Character development and unexpected twists (rather: avoiding cliches) are popularly accepted as elements that positively influence the quality. If you break it down like that, then yes, the building blocks are popularly accepted standards and I'm bowing down to that fact.
Some people might think Mondriaan made some dull paintings, but when you explain to them how he experimented with composition and color, they can at least see why it's an important piece of artistic history. They might still think it's a shitty painting, though.
This also works the other way around. I can watch shows without critically examining them (infact, it's much easier) and really enjoy a show like Seto_no_Hanayome. Still, it's easy to see (to me atleast) how this show is not an important show in this decade. It's excellent at what it does (being a comedy show) but it's not exploring any unknown territory, it's almost 100% immitation and replication. If I make a painting that's very similar to Mondriaan's work and based on the exact same ideas, you wouldn't put me in a list of "Top 50 painters of the decade". The painting may be brilliant, you can really love it, but it's not artistically significant. Basically, all I'm constantly asking myself is: What makes this show so special. Which elements have I never seen before and what impact did this have on the industry (Love Hina and Naruto are on the list, afterall)
I hope that clarifies it a little bit. Ofcourse it'll always remain a bit dubious and it's impossible to deal in absolutes since opinions can differ greatly.
This end-of-the decade list is making me painfully aware how many shows I've actually missed and how unqualified I may be. Apart from Needless, I'm ashamed to say I have not watched any of the shows in your last paragraph. Due to my ignorance they might have to go on a special 'unseen' list... And no, Needless won't be on any of my lists :p
@Karen Gellender
Now and Then, Here and There will definately be one of my picks (maybe the most important one of them all) and it started airing in 1999. But I know what you mean with KnT. This may sound somewhat odd, but I think Japanator has a certain responsibility in pandering to its audience. The content is provided to please the readers, which is why popularity of a show plays a bigger part in Jtor's top 50.
You make an interesting point, but I don't think it's that hard to critically break down a show you genuinely love. It has more to do with objectivity being a loose term here. I'm assessing every show based on certain standards of quality which are generally accepted by humanity. Character development and unexpected twists (rather: avoiding cliches) are popularly accepted as elements that positively influence the quality. If you break it down like that, then yes, the building blocks are popularly accepted standards and I'm bowing down to that fact.
Some people might think Mondriaan made some dull paintings, but when you explain to them how he experimented with composition and color, they can at least see why it's an important piece of artistic history. They might still think it's a shitty painting, though.
This also works the other way around. I can watch shows without critically examining them (infact, it's much easier) and really enjoy a show like Seto_no_Hanayome. Still, it's easy to see (to me atleast) how this show is not an important show in this decade. It's excellent at what it does (being a comedy show) but it's not exploring any unknown territory, it's almost 100% immitation and replication. If I make a painting that's very similar to Mondriaan's work and based on the exact same ideas, you wouldn't put me in a list of "Top 50 painters of the decade". The painting may be brilliant, you can really love it, but it's not artistically significant. Basically, all I'm constantly asking myself is: What makes this show so special. Which elements have I never seen before and what impact did this have on the industry (Love Hina and Naruto are on the list, afterall)
I hope that clarifies it a little bit. Ofcourse it'll always remain a bit dubious and it's impossible to deal in absolutes since opinions can differ greatly.
I don't quite understand the Key hate here. A huge amount of people would say Key anime franchises like Kanon, Air, Clannad, etc are some of the best anime of the decade. Yet not only is there only 1 anime on this list, but its really low on the list and it was thrown in there just to be in there apparently.
I can understand nodame cantabile to a certain extent. but I have not met a single person who has watched the series. It is very likely in reality a top 50, but probably not in the top 25.
I love Toradora a lot, so much that it is one of my favorite animes, but I not sure if it really deserves its slot.
Honestly this list is such an opinion pole that I do not know how to credit its credibility.
I can understand nodame cantabile to a certain extent. but I have not met a single person who has watched the series. It is very likely in reality a top 50, but probably not in the top 25.
I love Toradora a lot, so much that it is one of my favorite animes, but I not sure if it really deserves its slot.
Honestly this list is such an opinion pole that I do not know how to credit its credibility.

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This anime seems to have made the list because the Japanator Staff insisted on adding one Key show to the list. I say screw the rules, long live anarchy, all Key shows can burn in the hottest fire of hell.




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