Kyon, because he's funnier.

In honor of McVengence I'll start off with a big ole Kagami vote!

Kyonko.

Kyon because Kagami has her personality quirks as well. Where as he is perfectly normal.

Kyon. He was more entertaining and an interesting narrator. Plus, I just didn't get into Lucky Star enough the first time.

All Kyon

Kyonko.

Kagamin~. No need to give a reason, you should know already.

What is wrong with you people....

Sure Kyon is a cool dude and all, but he's boring as hell. The only reason the show he's in is interesting ISN'T because of him at all, it's because of Haruhi tossing him around all the time.

Kagami on the other hand, although in a similar situation, is interesting in her own right on many occasions as well.

Other reasons why Kagami is better:

1. She's a girl.
2. She's a tsundere that's actually not abusive.
3. She has long hair and pigtails.
4. She's cute.
5. She's the ideal re-imagining of Kyou (Clannad).
6. Kyon comes off as a lazy bum who just seems to drift through the motions of just whatever goes on (like Shikamaru except less interesting).
7. She's a girl.


Need More?

Kyon. you can't really argue with the man who could tame a God

I dont care about either so whoever the head honcho at Jtor is voring for gets my vote for that character.

PS
Kyon is a dick.

Kyon.

Kyon, because his sass knows no bounds.

Look at my name.

My vote is there.

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KYON.

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Also, all votes for Kyonko go towards Kyon.

Heero Yuy > I hate to say this man, but, what are you smoking ?

She's a girl.

So is Kyonko. Also, I am presuming you are either a male, or you are a feminist.

She's a tsundere that's actually not abusive.

Technically, she's not a tsundere. On that note, Haruhi would fill the requirement since she doesn't abuse Kyon, and Mikuru lets herself be abused and thus is not abused. And to be frank, the term tsundere is broad and vague.

Kyon comes off as a lazy bum who just seems to drift through the motions of just whatever goes on

That's because Kyon is a [u]norma][/u] guy. And that's why we can relate to him.

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Why I'd vote for Kyon:

(1) He sounds like Blackadder

(2) The dub for him was immaculate (thank you Freeman)

(3) He is the necessary antithesis to Haruhi

(4) Itsuki (yes)

(5) The overall fan craze for YukiXKyon (which I don't like, but what the heck)

and lastly (6) I have too few favourite males

And lastly.... what does Kagami have ? Konata ?

Alright fine, if you like KagamiXKonatam, and you don't like yaoi, now that's just a problem

kyon...that was easy.

Kyonko votes should go to Kyonko.

Damn, not much love for Kagami. Well, I'll vote for her - if only because of the NISE pic used above.

Don't get me wrong, Kyon is great and all. But I think the popularity of Kyonko and the fact that I'm still creeped out by it is even more of a reason for me to pick Kagami.

Just sayin'

Kyon:

because it's hinted that he gets the big titty submissive Haruhi play thing known as Mikuru ... SHE'S FROM THE FUTURE! @.@;

That means Kyon could have had a hot and nasty ménage à trois with a young Mikaru AND a more mature Mikuru. Think about THAT!

Kyon because I like his commentary better. He became one of my favorite characters because of the commentary in the light novels especially. =3 He definitely is a normal but not normal guy when you see what he thinks in the novels.

If Kyon was actually Kyonko canonly, I'd probably be gay for her.

Since I watched all of Lucky Star before I watched all of Haruhi, my vote goes for Kagami.

Ura-

I thought a bit more and I have to change my vote to kyonko...

And yes, a vote for kyonko is a vote for kyonko.

holy hell, i thought the sausage fest would vote kagamin for sure!

i vote for a third party entrant due to misrepresentation!

SALARYMAN KINTARO >D

Kagami because I'm not gay.

Kyon made for an interesting and enjoyable narrator for both the anime and light novels, so my vote goes to him.

Votes for Kyonko go to Kyonko ?

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Let's be honest here.

You can't have Kyonko without Kyon.

Also, despite what her fans say, she hasn't become her own character, as she is still a Kyon in a parallel universe.

Furthermore, she is a fan creation for a fanon.

Until Tanigawa starts writing in Kyonko and Haruki in the novels, then maybe.

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And besides, people..... Kyonko's not in the list.

So, I say votes for Kyonko go to Kyon. Just like how Hillary votes should go to Obama.

Kyon cos he's a role model for all the normal people surrounded by not so normal people.

Kagami

I don't understand the above posts. If it's the battle "to the death" as len said, shouldn't it be already obvious?

Kyon is a boy and kagami is a girl. Although it's unethical for a boy to hit a girl, still, a battle to the death is a battle to the death, so I would go with kyon on this one.

My condolences brad for your loss ;_;

Kyon

Kyon, cause HOLY CRAP have did you see him throw that chair that one time!?

I liked to follow the crowds so I'll vote for Kyon.

I almost want to vote for Kagami... it's hard not to pick the cute girl.

But Kyon is a better character, who is absolutely essential to his show and far more capable of providing laughs through his misfortune.

Even though I'm in love with Kagamin, this isn't a popularity contest (or shouldn't be, anyway) so I'm going to say Kyon is the height of averageness and vote for him.

Kyonko

I would say Kyon!

Kyon

Tough choice, but I've got to go with Kagamin.

Crud, this is the first one that hurts to think about! I cant choose!

MMmmmmm..... KYON

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/nickclkknt2/ponytail.png

Kyon is a great narrator and has Yuki AND Haruhi on his side. Kagami is your typical tsundere. I admit that she's really cute, but Kyon is just too cool.

Yeah, Kyon.

I hate you so much Len.

Seriously, I hate you so much.

Kyon.

the question --> most normal of normal
the answer --> Neither kyon nor nagami r normal.
(¬ ¬)

Kyon

Kagami.

wow @ kyon voter you guys made me lose all hope in japanator community..

of course Kagami.

I'm voting The Kyon simply because he's a cynical and socially critical as me, not to mention the fact that he narrates his life and everything he observes in his mind.

Kagami - but I don't know what we're basing this on =p

Kyon because Kyon is God.

[quote]Kagami - but I don't know what we're basing this on =p[/quote]

Nvm, I reread that several times and finally saw the battle to the death thing. Kyon - obviously

@kyonshiro:

Ignoring the smoking comment since the only two drugs I've ever ingested were caffeine and anime, Kyonko isn't an OFFICIAL CHARACTER. I know all about that sidestory 2ch creation, so you don't need to get all tight about it. I was comparing official canon KYON to Kagami. Secondly, if in every other voting competition votes for Hei from Darker than Black go to Hei, then votes for Kyonko go to Kyonko.

And just to correct your overly simplified voting comparison, a fair percentage of Hillary supporters have been known to vote McCain, just like how some Ron Paul supporters have been known to vote Obama, thereby disproving your logic fallacy altogether.

Lastly, Kagami is undeniably one of the purest examples of a tsundere character ever created, and the definition of tsundere I'm going by is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere

Also, if ripping someone out of the hallway and dragging them by their necktie, forcing them into a club, not listening to a damn word they say, and dumping all the menial tasks onto the poor guy isn't abuse, then I don't want to know what sick sadistic actions you would consider abuse.

I don't know who to choose. Hmm... I can't vote for both of them can I? Ok, fine, I vote for Kyon, he has the pictures of Mikuru so, he wins.

Also, that picture of Kagami looks familiar, is it from a doujinshi? Whenever I see it, I get these perverted feelings.

[ Technically, she's not a tsundere.]
Wait... what?
[ On that note, Haruhi would fill the requirement since she doesn't abuse Kyon, and Mikuru lets herself be abused and thus is not abused. ]
. . .
K, I'm not even commenting on that... But I would really like to know who you'd consider a tsundere, and what's your definition of "being abused".

Anyway, my vote goes to Kagami, because she's the most interesting character of the two. We barely no know anything about kyon, not even his name! And the guy could use a "personality" or something lol.

Mechagami. She flies, has twin drills, calls me Master.

@kamanashi: That's because the artist that drew that image for a doujinshi has done several hentai doujinshi in the past as well.

Kyon.
I'd be stuck if Crispin Freeman did Kagami's voice.

Kyon!

Seriously..

Kyon

I vote for God Len.

Kyonko is her own entry. I decree it!

I love that kagamin image

Kyon would win because he is a more average looking person then Kagami. You see, Kyon isn't very attractive, he has more realistic (or at least smaller) looking eyes and he has a natural hair color plus a seriously boring haircut.
All that and the simple fact that has been brought up by many others before me, Kyon is funnier.

well my 'battle to the death' statement was pretty much a figure of speech. Who do you like more is more like it. Though if you want to base this off fighting skills you are more than welcome to

To Kyon, one of the greatest tsukkomi/straight man to ever grace an anime.

Kagami's ok, but after years of being exposed to tsunderes, they're starting to piss me off.

@heero yuy- Ok, thanks for telling me.

My vote goes to Kagami, but only 'cause she has boobs.

I quite honestly like each character just about equally.

Kyon

Kagami, but just because Lucky Star is the most recent one I've seen. Honestly I think I like them both about the same.

Kagami. I mean, come on. She's wearing a tennis skirt.

Kyon, because he was a great element of the show, and an overall cool guy with funny commentary on the events of the series.

Kagami is a fine character, but gets annoying sometimes.

Kagami for sure.

I do respect Kyon for saving reality from time to time.

I just thought of it, but that Kagami looks like it was drawn by Nisemidi Doronokai. If so, I would like the image source ^_~

Kyon.

Zyph: it was pretty much the first choice when i typed in kagami into google image.

If Kyonko is to be her own entry, I change my vote to her.

If not, I'll stick with Kyon.

kagami just because...

Kyon hes a fungi XD,i mean he lives off the garbage haruhi spews from her lips,and subconcious :P

@Heero Yuy:
Thank you for explaining that. That Kyonko monster was bugging me to no end.

@TessR:
How in Venguaq's name did I forget Crispin Freeman?

Kyon.

kagami is awesome but.....

it has to be kyon!

>Heero Yuy

[quote]Kyonko isn't an OFFICIAL CHARACTER.[/quote]

Yeah, yeah, blatantly obvious statement we all know.

That still doesn't change the fact that she's still, by all means, Kyon. Seriously.

Of course, we can get into some tl;dr on how she isn't, but from my standpoint, she's no more then just female Kyon.

[quote]And just to correct your overly simplified voting comparison, a fair percentage of Hillary supporters have been known to vote McCain, just like how some Ron Paul supporters have been known to vote Obama, thereby disproving your logic fallacy altogether.[/quote]

A fair percentage doesn't mean all.

Besides, I'd feel very sorry for those voters, since they're going for an extremist Republican who would not uphold the Democratic ideals that Hillary held.

Yes, we know that votes for Kyonko could direct to Kagami, following that allegory, but they also point back to Kyon on grounds of background (democrats/same anime) and character.

So, it's not entirely a logical fallacy since it would be preferential for demcorats to stick together.

[quote]Lastly, Kagami is undeniably one of the purest examples of a tsundere character ever created, and the definition of tsundere I'm going by is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere[/quote]

Wikipedia is over-rated, but I'm just being silly here. In essence, yes, you're right.

But, that being said:

Also, if ripping someone out of the hallway and dragging them by their necktie, forcing them into a club, not listening to a damn word they say, and dumping all the menial tasks onto the poor guy isn't abuse, then I don't want to know what sick sadistic actions you would consider abuse.

I call that eccentricity.

Besides, Haruhi's selfishness has improved lately. And to be honest, it's abuse when Kyon openly reacts against Haruhi, but she still continues, which she hasn't done yet. Kyon and Mikuru still keep quite about it.

And if you ask me, I'd rather pick a normal, quiet and unintrusive individual to a tsundere.

Kagami

The fact that Kyonko even exists is enough fail on Kyon's behalf

@Kyonshiro: It's a logic fallacy since just because it would be GOOD for them to stick together for their interests doesn't mean that they will at all. And saying "a fair percentage isn't all" means you're refuting your own statement earlier where you said "all".

Disregarding all the political talk lest this turn into a nuclear flame war, Kyon and Kyonko are different characters. Making up an alternative form of a character and voting for it is about as low as giving the twin buster rifle to Nanoha and saying that's why she'd win a fight against Sailor Moon. And once again, you have yet to refute the fact that in all past debates whenever someone voted for a character not part of the main selections, that voted counted for THAT character, not one of the main choices (example: the votes for Hei from Darker than Black)

Point is, Kyonko just as much a different character as Archer is from Shirou Emiya. Tough.

Kyon!

uh..er um this is way hard um....KAGAMI!

I agree sigue

Can... can those two just have sex, and whoever lasts longer wins? I think that would be better than having a debate. The only thing we need to debate about is how we're going to tape that.

Kyon

Kyon would win, his boredom knows no bounds.

Kyon 4 win!
Hell yeah!

Kagami all the way....so much neurotic purple haired cuteness

Point is, Kyonko just as much a different character as Archer is from Shirou Emiya.

He isn't, and I stick by that belief.

Yes, Archer is presented as a radically different person from Emiya. But the fact is that Emiya did win and become Archer at least once.

To be frank, this is a philosophical discussion with no clear-cut resolution. Some would argue that the person who turns out to be a murderer in one universe is a completely different person from his double in a parallel universe. However, if that's the case, how can they possible be 'the same person' ?

Douglas Adams toyed with the idea in "Mostly Harmless', and said that it also relies on the way you look at things. Archer still maintained some of the feelings he once had when he was Emiya, so, in a sense, he's really justa future possibility for Emiya.

The future of Hiro Nakamura was as real a possibility as the future Hiro fulfilled by stabbing Sylar.

On those notes, Kyonko is still Kyon, merely without a Y chromosone.

And once again, you have yet to refute the fact that in all past debates whenever someone voted for a character not part of the main selections, that voted counted for THAT character, not one of the main choices

And like I said, they're not different characers, at least to me.

Besides, it'd be unfair if votes went to an outside character when the focus of this poll was on one character.

Kyonko should then be a tie-breaker: if Kyon's votes overwhelms Kagami's, then the Kyonko votes apply for a tertiary character. If Kyon and Kagami are at an equal, the subconscious liking for a Kyon without a Y chromosone means that they still love Kyon and thus, are factored in.

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And yes, I still stand by the philosophical notion that identity is constant, though, in your favour, the argument is relatively complicated to ahve one stand.

So, to me, Kyonko is still Kyon.

Kagami

Kyon. He's wicked normal, but funny.

Kyon. Because Kagami has lavender hair. That isn't normal hair colour. O_o

i never liked lucky stars so iam gonna go with kyon

QUICK! Grab the holy water! We have a blasphemer!

Kyonko accept no substitutes!

Kyon, for many reasons.

Kyonko!

@Kyonshiro's last comment:

....

So basically you're a sore loser.

@Heero Yuy> Well, that depends.

We'll see whose the actual loser when the poll results comes out, alright ?

And regardless of what you say, I am willing to go on a long debate as to why Archer is, to the core of it, the same person that Emiya is.

Kagami :D