Endless eight, in my opinion, was great. Different from the general view, but hey, to each his own. I can understand why people dislike it though, but I feel the addition of Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody and The Boredom were at the very least justifyable additions.
Anyway, thats my opinion on things. A lot of people would like to see the end of Haruhi, but realistically that's not going to happen any time soon.
A) Money
B) There is more material(rest of the novels) to cover
The 2nd season was mostly terrible though, I can agree that if it didn't exist Haruhi(as a show) may be in a better place.
Also, without Haruhi season 2, we probably wouldn't have had the second round of character songs, and Nagato's 2nd character song is awesome.
That said there are countless people out there that would LOVE to see more of the characters and the world they live in. This doesn't just relate to Haruhi it relates to pretty much every show.
For example I would have LOVED to see more from the series Stellvia(which was actually supposed to have a 2nd season but it never happened.) However friends of mine who have seen the first series think it should not have a sequel. That doesn't change the fact that I would like to see more of those characters and their world even if it means it may take place in a farther timeline and they may be older. In fact that would probably be more interesting.
Point is just because you think something should end doesn't mean it should. That first season will always be great regardless if everything that comes after is crap. As I said you are not being forced to watch anything so if you think it should have ended then leave it at that.
@Reibooi: I absolutely see your point, but the thing is, 'leaving it at that' is EXACTLY what I'm trying to do-- I said that in MY world, Haruhi should be over, not in the actual world of objective reality (such as it is, lol.) In a way, all I'm doing here is saying goodbye to something I love, not berating something I don't like-- I don't think there's even any criticism of the second season in the article until the final paragraph.
There is a helluva lot of bitching on the internet, so I think it's easy to fall into the trap of assuming that anything that makes any sort of negative point MUST be bitching, but I don't think that's true.
@Lyfeforce; actually, the whole time I was writing it, I kept thinking up counter-arguments, lol. I would be really interested to see if you came up with some of the same points.
People are sequel fanatics by nature; they want more. Also, though I enjoyed Haruhi season 1 quite a lot, the pick doesn't seem that controversial to me. It makes me wonder what would inspire a bigger reaction- Final Fantasy, a comic book character like Superman or Batman, Sesame Street- I think it's a long list.
- bobmarleypeople - I have to disagree with your comment slightly- both Nagato's (Chihara Minori) 2nd season character song's are awesome.
I want Suzumiya Haruhi to continue, because there are just a few questions that need to be answered.
1) Why choose the 3 lowest ranked members of your organization to observe quite possibly the most important subject in the universe. A rational entity would select the best of the best, wouldn't you agree?
2) How will the universe end if Haruhi dies?
If not,then let it continue.
Time to get back to watching Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and/or Baoh.
Obviously, whoever wrote this article is NOT a Haruhi reader. There are so many chapters we fans want to see in the anime. For starters: Disappearance.
I've noticed in the novels how Haruhi tends to fade away from the picture, while the focus goes to Nagato and Mikuru.
We yet have to see Nagato steal the show in Disappearance. Not only she blushes and shows emotions like a normal human being during this arc (to know more this side of her, I recommend reading the currently-being-published manga by Puyo, "The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki"), but in the future she is more open. At one point, she decides to prepare dinner for Kyon and Mikuru. She shares her most intimate feelings during book 8... and in a poem, no less! Yes. Nagato loves life. She is afraid of losing it, and she particularly likes to watch snow fall. In her own words, "like the tiniest of miracles". And yes, she chose her name because she likes snow.
Mikuru is also given the chance to mature more - starting with the incident with the black van that nearly wipes her off the map. Then with the "Intrigues" arc, we learn the truth of why she is REALLY in this time-frame, and what actions she must take to preserve the future as she knows it. Kyon is part of this. And if that wasn't enough, in this arc there are two mikurus AT THE SAME TIME. And I don't mean the adult Asahina-san, but Mikuru is traveling two weeks to the past, so she has to avoid being seen by her present-self! Isn't this premise good enough for a next Haruhi season?
And what to say about the ANTI-BRIGADE? For the first time in the novels, we have enemies!
And there's the question... where do Haruhi's powers come from? And when will Kyon reveal his alter ego of John Smith?
Back to the article. Haruhi isn't only a romantic show. It's a science fiction show. In all the extension of the word. In my eyes, it's going to the level of classical Science Fiction that involve aliens, time travel, androids, and psychics. You'd need to read a lot of science fiction novels (or at least read about them) to get the references given to us in the first season. I'm still looking forward to reading HYPERION, the novel that Nagato was reading.
I can also argue against your argument that Haruhi is Kyon's Undeniable Significant Other. Here are the reasons why she's NOT. In both the first and second season Kyon REFUSES to kiss Haruhi, or even to tell her that he loves her. Now, this would be quite normal for a tsundere type, but in both cases Koizumi still ignores (or at least pretends to ignore) the fact that Kyon and Haruhi kissed in that sealed reality.
If Kyon refuses to do something Koizumi doesn't know about, there is no feeling to be embarrassed about. In other words, Kyon isn't refusing to kiss Haruhi out of denial - but he's actually sharing his true feelings. He doesn't love her.
A second hint is the alias Kyon chooses when meeting Haruhi during his one-night time travel adventure in Tanabata: John Smith. Now, where have we heard that name, eh? I'll tell you where: Doctor Who. Yes, it's hinted that Kyon is, in reality, the Doctor himself.
Kyon and Haruhi's relationship is not romantic love, but tolerance. If Kyon really loved Haruhi (romantically, I mean), he wouldn't have gotten to the point of almost beating her (and possibly destroying the universe in the process) when she was forcing Mikuru to kiss Koizumi just for the realism of the movie. Hello? Have you been paying attention to the series AT ALL?
You might want to argue that in the 4th novel, where Kyon is given the chance to forget about Haruhi and live happily ever after for good, and yet, he doesn't. While this MIGHT prove your point that Haruhi is Kyon's UFO, it automatically disregards your main argument: That we don't need another season of Haruhi. This 4th novel also opens the possibility that the one who is really craving for aliens, time travellers and espers (and also the one with the powers) is not Haruhi, but Kyon himself. Isn't that a good plot twist that merits an additional season?
Finally, Kyon is starting to pay more attention to Nagato than to Haruhi. If there is a hint of romance in this show, it's not just boy-meets-girl, but a love triangle. Yes. I have the feeling that Kyon cares for Nagato much more than he does for Haruhi. And if Haruhi isn't open about her liking of Kyon, there is someone who is open about it. The question you should ask is: Who gave Kyon that cardigan? Think about it, and you'll find the answer.
Right now there is so much to explore about the SOS brigade, and so little time.
So. Should Haruhi Suzumiya be over? No, sir, I don't think so.
The anime and the books, though based on the same general story, have their own continuities and such- you don't have to assume that everything that applies to one must apply to the other. If they took the anime in a different direction from the books (as it seems they may have in regard to the Haruhi/Kyon relationship), that means we should be especially careful before assuming that something that happened in the books must happen in the anime.
They are not both derivatives based off a general story. The novels are the original story, which the anime is based off.
Let's be clear on one thing first: they will never completely bring any relationship arch to a close. Nagato, Mikuru, Haruhi, they will all remain possible love interest because of the possibility of disappointed fans if Kyon leans too much towards one girl.
I think it is important to have read the novels in order to bring down the hammer on season two. You say they should never have made season two because it has nothing to offer, but you only say this because you do not know what additional archs could be adapted from the novels.
Yes, Endless Eight was shit. Yes, season two mostly sucked because of it. Thus, you argue that Haruhi should be over. However, anyone who has read the novels would know that the greatest is yet to come. The Disappearance! Haruhi cannot possibly be over until we have an adaptation of that.
Imagine we were talking not about Haruhi, but about Indiana Jones. And that the TV series consisted only about "Raiders of the Lost Ark" (season 1) and ... ew... "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" (season 2). But the novels also include "Temple of Doom" and "The Last Crusade".
You possibly couldn't dismiss the entire Indiana Jones franchise because of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, would you? Especially if you hadn't watched The Last Crusade.
It's the same with Haruhi. There is MORE ORIGINAL MATERIAL that hasn't got to the TV yet. And this material is not just awesome. Not just superb. It's epic, in the Kamina way!
The TV series cannot be complete without Kyon's time traveling adventures and his quest to return home from the alternate universe. It can't be complete without meeting the SOS brigade's enemies. And certainly, it can't be complete without at least watching how Nagato blushes and smiles at Kyon! We're talking about HUGE character development here!
I hope you get my point now.
Ja ne! ^_^
You feel like, as a critic, I should be better informed about Haruhi, which is fair enough, BUT, think for a moment that I just represent the average viewer: do you think that everyone who has gotten pissed off at this show is WRONG because they haven't read the novels? Would you tell your friend, who has lost patience with the show, that he has no right to an opinion on it unless he knows exactly what sort of content may or may not come later? No matter how well I understand the hardcore fan's perspective, that wouldn't be fair to your friend, you know?
I completely agree with you that season 2, as it is now, should not have been made. In a way, it absolutely devalues the first season and the title in general. This is exactly what this article is about, this is what you are arguing, and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
However, to say "Haruhi should be over" instead of "season 2 devalued season 1" is to go one step further.
I think the series still has alot more to offer, despite the disappointment of season 2.
Additionally I'd just like to clarify that, unlike Rick777, I have not read all the novels (only up to volume 5)
Also, I don't think the Haruhi light novels are the greatest thing ever. They are relatively enjoyable to me, but I wouldn't use any superlatives to describe it...
Casablanca is a timeless award winning film. Haruhi was originated from several light novels, then an anime series that had been chopped up, reinterpreted, re-re-released to the point of being almost unrecognizable from the original airing... now on top of that a second "season" was released to cash in. Casablanca was created as a single story and was considered such a masterpiece that out of respect a sequel was never fully realized in film form (quoted from my veteran film class teacher). Also, an authorized book sequel was published in the 80s.
...my point being. Don't compare something and then negate the use of it a paragraph into your argument. I'd prefer to see valid facts and relative comparisons instead of using a quality film to help sensationalize a topic... last time I checked your last name wasn't Sterling.
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca_%28film%29#Sequels_and_other_versions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruhi_Suzumiya
@Adam T: Did your film class teacher mention the fact that they started shooting the film before they had written the ending? Ingrid Bergman kept having to ask the writers if she was going to end up with Bogart or not, and they were all like "We don't have a clue, sweetheart." It was charmingly irresponsible:).
Maybe some day I'll watch them, after they stop. I can't say no to Haruhi forever.
Correct.
@Ruby Cosmos: I think Apocalypse Now is a great film, and saying that the experience needs to be informed by a story in another medium is pretty much an insult. Next thing you know, I'm going to have to have read a biography of Walt Disney in order to properly understand Dumbo >

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