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Okay, what the hell Sega? The M rating is already there, what is the point in removing content unless you just didn't have time to localize it? I would have accepted that reason at least. The japanese gameshow quiz thing I could understand since most people wouldn't know japanese history, but the hostess bar? What the hell is there not to understand? Pretty ladies get you to come in and sit with them and slowly get you to buy them drinks. Certainly, it's not a deal breaker that it's been removed, but as a customer I feel rather betrayed that they'd give me less than 100% of a game that I'm paying full price for OVER A YEAR SINCE IT CAME OUT. Damn it Sega, you really can't afford to be pissing off customers.
Color me disappointed. One of the bigger draws for Yakuza 3 was that you could train your very own uncanny-valley hostess.
I am now in the process of reconsidering my purchase.
Hard to do, considering how I loved the first one, confusing goal-points and all.
Hard to do, considering how I loved the first one, confusing goal-points and all.
I honestly don't care. When I played Yakuza 2, I found the hostess clubs to be pointless, lengthy diversions. If they really did have to make hard choices due to time constraints, I can definitely live without that portion of the game.
That said, it's disappointing that they had to cut ANYTHING out. Not only does that hurt the game for other people who DO care about the hostess stuff, it doesn't bode well for the amount of respect the localization of Yakuza 4 might get.
If it gets one at all.
That said, it's disappointing that they had to cut ANYTHING out. Not only does that hurt the game for other people who DO care about the hostess stuff, it doesn't bode well for the amount of respect the localization of Yakuza 4 might get.
If it gets one at all.
I discovered Yuma Asami through Yakuza 2, actually. That fact is only tangentially related to this story but I thought I'd share the usefulness of including 3D representations of real porn-stars in videogames.
I realized after posting that comment that my meaning behind the "doesn't bode well for the amount of respect" part might be unclear. What gets me worried is the "in the time alloted for us to do so," phrase in Sega's quote. That seems to imply that guys up top aren't giving the localization team as much time to finish as they'd like.
Their bosses are trying to kick it out the door, in other words.
Their bosses are trying to kick it out the door, in other words.
Thank god they took the hostess bar out. My poor, sensitive western brain would have exploded.
By the way, this is supposed to be GTA5, right? Whatever, I'm going back to playing MW2 and watching football.
By the way, this is supposed to be GTA5, right? Whatever, I'm going back to playing MW2 and watching football.
Do they think cutting content will get more people to purchase the game? I for one am now closer to passing this even though I probably won't even notice the difference either way.
In respect to the M rating. This is like when an R rated movie only has one glimpse of a titty. I mean come on you might as well make it worth our while at that point.
ehhhh you just need a good sponsor to get you in the Japanese only hostess bar. if not, you are left to the hostess bars run by the Nigerians. which are OK, but by the time we had an "IN" i was broke... =\
damn you Kabukicho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wait, what?
damn you Kabukicho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wait, what?
*twitch* why . . . . . . . ... .
Like what's the reason .. . I mean if you don't have time or want to dub it, just make it an option for the Japanese audio track, or make it a part of a special unlock, or put it in the special edition.
Like what's the reason .. . I mean if you don't have time or want to dub it, just make it an option for the Japanese audio track, or make it a part of a special unlock, or put it in the special edition.
@cheesecracker: Really? THAT'S going to be your reason for not buying Yakuza 3?
We're incredibly lucky this game is even getting localized, considering how Yakuza 1 & 2 sold. Heck, Sega started out saying it wasn't going to happen. They simply don't believe Yakuza is a viable franchise in the West, which may have something to do with the time constraints the localization team was given. It has nothing to do with cultural sensitivity.
It has nothing to do with potential controversy (there was no outcry over Yakuza 2, after all). It has nothing to do with trying to get more sales. It has EVERYTHING to do with Sega trying to keep costs low enough that they'll make a profit on the sales they think they'll get.
Plus, they're not ruling out the possibility of putting it in as DLC if the game does well enough.
@thatguyukno: They're not dubbing anything. It's a sub-only game, so your only option is a Japanese audio track. That's how Yakuza 2 was. They probably learned from their experience with Yakuza 1 that dubbing wasn't worth the investment.
We're incredibly lucky this game is even getting localized, considering how Yakuza 1 & 2 sold. Heck, Sega started out saying it wasn't going to happen. They simply don't believe Yakuza is a viable franchise in the West, which may have something to do with the time constraints the localization team was given. It has nothing to do with cultural sensitivity.
It has nothing to do with potential controversy (there was no outcry over Yakuza 2, after all). It has nothing to do with trying to get more sales. It has EVERYTHING to do with Sega trying to keep costs low enough that they'll make a profit on the sales they think they'll get.
Plus, they're not ruling out the possibility of putting it in as DLC if the game does well enough.
@thatguyukno: They're not dubbing anything. It's a sub-only game, so your only option is a Japanese audio track. That's how Yakuza 2 was. They probably learned from their experience with Yakuza 1 that dubbing wasn't worth the investment.
@Stilts.
Well, it doesn't really surprise me that there will be some people who will cancel their pre-order now or not buy it altogether (atleast until the inevitable price drop) specifically for two reasons.
1) The hostess clubs were in the first two installments and were liked in general by the fans. Especially so because it was optional, if you didn't like it then the game didn't force you in any way to use it. Now that option isn't there and that sucks quite honestly.
2) The game is year late and now with less content for the same price. Regardless of how poor the franchise sold, this is a serious slap to the face of the fans who actually BOUGHT the first two installments and would've done so with the third. I'm not saying that every single one will not buy this game (I'm guessing the minority will be pissed of by this decision) but even so it will clearly affect the sales, however minuscule it may be, and that is bad for obvious reasons.
And lastly, the message Sega is giving (according to you) is this: Either you buy this game and we_might_release the hostess club as a DLC for more money OR we never release the fourth one because of poor sales.
Ouch.
Well, it doesn't really surprise me that there will be some people who will cancel their pre-order now or not buy it altogether (atleast until the inevitable price drop) specifically for two reasons.
1) The hostess clubs were in the first two installments and were liked in general by the fans. Especially so because it was optional, if you didn't like it then the game didn't force you in any way to use it. Now that option isn't there and that sucks quite honestly.
2) The game is year late and now with less content for the same price. Regardless of how poor the franchise sold, this is a serious slap to the face of the fans who actually BOUGHT the first two installments and would've done so with the third. I'm not saying that every single one will not buy this game (I'm guessing the minority will be pissed of by this decision) but even so it will clearly affect the sales, however minuscule it may be, and that is bad for obvious reasons.
And lastly, the message Sega is giving (according to you) is this: Either you buy this game and we_might_release the hostess club as a DLC for more money OR we never release the fourth one because of poor sales.
Ouch.
Somehow I think the only people who would even buy this game would at least have a slight interest in Japanese culture...
I think we have just as good an understanding of what a hostess bar is as we have of the real comings and goings of a Yakuza. Come on.
Why would they take out the Hostess Clubs in Yakuza 3 when they left them in the last games? That doesn't make any sense. Now I'm not so sure about buying this game. I didn't know about the first two games until rather recently because I guess they didn't advertise enough. I've been playing 2, and while I really like the story and the game in general, I'm finding that I like the side missions and mini games, especially the Hostess & Host club parts the best. So if they take the thing I like best about Yakuza 2 out of Yakuza 3, that will make me reconsider pre-ordering it.
@stilts
i'm not picking this game up until the price drop i'm just sick of game when released into N. america get some parts deleted off. for example the naruto games i got two years ago has 4-6 character that was not in the N.A version. it's just so retarded
i'm not picking this game up until the price drop i'm just sick of game when released into N. america get some parts deleted off. for example the naruto games i got two years ago has 4-6 character that was not in the N.A version. it's just so retarded
This really make no sense, but this is Sega. Everything you ask them for something they find a way to screw it up. If you ask them for a Cheeseburger with no pickles they'll take away the cheese too because they thought you would not want cheese since you don't want pickles.
I hope this isn't a stupid question but if you are caucasian and native to japan, do you think they would let you in if you showed a japanese passport? Or somehow proved you weren't a tourist? Or is it a blanket "only japanese" thing or does it vary by establishment?
I get tired of it being assumed that my narrow, American mind can't wrap itself around the wacky, upside-down world of Japanese culture. Of course, it could be opined that this has nothing to do with culture or time, but rather money.
Cutting the quiz and the clubs cuts the amount of text to translate/program, thus cutting the overall domestication cost. Seeing as how Sega wasn't going to release it to the west in the first place, this may be a way of minimizing their losses if it fails to meet it's minimum expectations.
Furthermore, it was due to fan demand that it's getting a western release. Is it possible that the same could keep the quiz and clubs from being cut? Personally, I'd accept a delay if it meant that it would reach our shores whole.
Cutting the quiz and the clubs cuts the amount of text to translate/program, thus cutting the overall domestication cost. Seeing as how Sega wasn't going to release it to the west in the first place, this may be a way of minimizing their losses if it fails to meet it's minimum expectations.
Furthermore, it was due to fan demand that it's getting a western release. Is it possible that the same could keep the quiz and clubs from being cut? Personally, I'd accept a delay if it meant that it would reach our shores whole.
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